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[deleted] OP t1_j3qxtai wrote

Reply to comment by DevFRus in [D] Found very similar paper to my submitted paper on Arxiv by [deleted]

Didn’t realise I could do that! Would I just email them with a copy of the preprint, explain I had submitted it back in November, and see would they be able to cite it?

Is that still possible even if my paper gets rejected?

Sorry if these are dumb questions haha, I’m just not sure what best practices are in this type of situation.

Edit: I should add I never initially uploaded my preprint to Arxiv. Only sent it to cvpr. Just uploaded it today though instead.

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adalca t1_j3qz367 wrote

these are concurrent works, the first to put on arxiv by a few days is not the one that gets bragging rights :) One thing you could do is send them your arxiv link, tell them it's concurrent work, and in the next arxiv iteration or whatever you should each cite eachother as concurrent work.

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[deleted] OP t1_j3qzu4v wrote

Will do that!

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adalca t1_j3r2zyd wrote

you might want to mention how excited you are that a fancy lab like theirs is working on similar stuff ... maybe you can give them a talk or something :)

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[deleted] OP t1_j3rvyba wrote

Haha good call. I’ve started a discourse with them now and they said that they’ll decide whether to cite my paper once both have been accepted somewhere and whether they like some of the video results I can show them. Promising stuff at least!

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ss3423 t1_j3s89lg wrote

I'm gonna be a little brusque, and say it sounds like they're strong arming you here to take some more credit, if you truly had your work in preprint before theirs it'd stay pretty firm in asking them to cite your work when theirs comes out since yours was in preprint first.

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adalca t1_j3ry7uc wrote

>Haha good call. I’ve started a discourse with them now and they said that they’ll decide whether to cite my paper once both have been accepted somewhere and whether they like some of the video results I can show them. Promising stuff at least!

yup! Academia and research is really about the collaborations that get formed rather than one project. This might be more helpful to you than if it had not happened. Good luck!

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[deleted] OP t1_j3rz1dv wrote

Indeed! I’ve asked the main author if he’d like to meet up with me and discuss our research so hopefully it goes somewhere :)

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mmmniple t1_j3slg0j wrote

I hope he does. If I were the other I would be surprised than we had the same idea. And maybe you could working together on a improvement of it. Good luck!!

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Fenzik t1_j3qyvke wrote

Why did you not initially upload to arXiv? Just curious

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[deleted] OP t1_j3qz0fp wrote

My supervisor advised me against it. She’s not a big fan of putting papers there before they’re published.

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bill_klondike t1_j3r9lj5 wrote

I disagree with your supervisor and your post pretty much illustrates why!

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ASuarezMascareno t1_j3rzdg1 wrote

I work in Astronomy, not in ML, but review first and arxiv later is how most people work in Europe. I typically don't find european arxiv papers that are not accepted for publication already. It's different for US papers. US groups are much more aggressive at pushing their work out, but that also means more people getting wrong information when the paper changes significantly in the review process.

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throwaway2676 t1_j3sxeda wrote

> I work in Astronomy, not in ML, but review first and arxiv later is how most people work in Europe. I typically don't find european arxiv papers that are not accepted for publication already.

I did work in an Astronomy adjacent field, and European researchers in our area all submitted to arxiv first, just like US groups.

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Cheap_Meeting t1_j3unjt1 wrote

We can't afford that in Machine Learning by the time your paper has passed the review process it's going to be outdated.

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[deleted] OP t1_j3rmxb0 wrote

Yup! At least I know for the future now.

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DevFRus t1_j3rk8qb wrote

I think that your supervisor is using arxiv wrong, and giving you bad advice on how to use arxiv.

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ktpr t1_j3rxi2v wrote

Whats the right way to use arXiv?

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Cheap_Meeting t1_j3unrox wrote

It's a preprint server, meant to publish preprints.

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ktpr t1_j3usyfe wrote

That begs the question, what are good ways to use a preprint server to further your academic career

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anony_sci_guy t1_j3swstr wrote

I feel like everyone in the new generation has this happen once, learns from it, and has started pre-printing everything...

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DevFRus t1_j3rknfc wrote

I wouldn't make a big deal of when it was submitted (especially since you didn't upload it to arXiv like you should have). You can mention in passing that your paper is under review at CVPR. The important thing to note is that you spotted their work because it is similar to what you were working on and would be eager to cite each other as concurrent and talk to them about the work and future directions.

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Cheap_Meeting t1_j3uo0s9 wrote

Also, you might want to tell them that you thought their paper was really well executed and if they would be willing to chat and if there are internship opportunities on their team (if you are interested in that).

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