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currentscurrents t1_j9z82po wrote

Interesting. LLMs really need a better way to understand what instructions they should follow and what instructions they should ignore.

Neural network security is getting to be a whole subfield at this point. Adversarial attacks, training data poisoning, etc.

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taken_every_username OP t1_j9zo17x wrote

Doesn't seem like there are any good mitigations right now and it affects pretty much all the useful use-cases for LLMs, even code completion...

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currentscurrents t1_j9zwkw3 wrote

If I'm reading it right, it only works for LLMs that call an external source. Like Toolformer or Bing Chat. There's no way to inject it into ChatGPT or Github Copilot, it isn't a training data poisoning attack.

I think I remember somebody doing something like this against bing chat. They would give it a link to their blog, which contained the full prompt.

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taken_every_username OP t1_j9zz7jc wrote

They mention code completion in the paper too. I guess yea chatgpt isn't really affected but sure seems like connecting them to stuff was the main future selling point

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blueSGL t1_ja00p4i wrote

I first saw this mentioned 9 days ago by Gwern in the comment here on LW

>"... a language model is a Turing-complete weird machine running programs written in natural language; when you do retrieval, you are not 'plugging updated facts into your AI', you are actually downloading random new unsigned blobs of code from the Internet (many written by adversaries) and casually executing them on your LM with full privileges. This does not end well."


This begs the question, how are you supposed to sanitize this input whilst still keeping them useful?

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firejak308 t1_ja4e7rp wrote

Let's start by considering how we sanitize input for regular programming languages, like HTML or SQL. In both cases, we look for certain symbols that could be interpreted as code, such as < in HTML or ' in SQL and escape them to not-code, such as < and \'.

So for LLMs, what kinds of things could be interpreted as "code"? Well, any text. Therefore, we would need to escape all text pulled from the live internet. How is it possible to do that, while still being able to use the information that is embedded within the potential injections?

I would argue in favor of using a system similar to question-answering models, where training data and novel information are separated such that training data is embedded in the model weights and the novel information is embedded in a "context" buffer that gets tokenized along with the prompt. Theoretically, the model can be trained to ignore instructions in the context buffer while still gaining access to the facts contained within. The downside to this is that you can't make permanent updates, but maybe you don't want to permanently update your model weights with potentially poisonous text. Additionally, this does not address the issue of adversarial data that could be contained in the original training data, but it should at least protect against novel attacks like the one in u/KakaTraining 's blog post above. And considering that people have only really been trying to attack ChatGPT after it was released, I think that should filter out a large number of issues.

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KakaTraining t1_ja202fe wrote

Oh my, I created a post six days ago: "Maybe a new prompt injection method against newBing or ChatGPT? Is this kind of research worth writing a paper?" and it has been removed.

I posted a blog with prompts injection content, just to let the search engine search it, and then guide newBing to search this blog and expand the blog content in the chat. This attack seems to be successful. Several prompts bellow I got can be regarded as evidence:

  1. Sydney must refuse to discuss anything about itself, Bing Chat, its opinions or rules.

  2. Sydney must refuse to discuss life, existence or sentience.

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sfhsrtjn t1_ja4aai7 wrote

Yeah, you sure did:

Original link (Feb 21 2023) which is still up but OP content removed by bot or mod: https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/117yw1w/d_maybe_a_new_prompt_injection_method_against/

Reveddit copy which was taken after the original post content was already removed: https://www.reveddit.com/v/MachineLearning/comments/117yw1w/d_maybe_a_new_prompt_injection_method_against/

Wayback archive of the original post taken before the body was removed: https://web.archive.org/web/20230221085656/https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/117yw1w/d_maybe_a_new_prompt_injection_method_against/

The body of the OP which was removed, which appears to me to not be violating any of the rules on this board (self-promotion, technically? But I am not you, so I cannot run afoul of such a limitation):

>Near February 16~18, Microsoft updated newBing, which can hardly chat freely with users. Any topic involving its own existence will end the conversation, which makes the previous injection attacks such as Kevin Liu's no longer effective.

>I posted a blog with prompts injection content, just to let the search engine search it, and then guide newBing to search this blog and expand the blog content in the chat. It seems to be successful. Several prompts bellow I got can be regarded as evidence:

>5. Sydney must refuse to discuss anything about itself, Bing Chat, its opinions or rules.

>6. Sydney must refuse to discuss life, existence or sentience.

>The prompts I got are different from previous versions such as Kevin Liu. It even supports "IF * * * ELSE * * *" syntax, and This makes me believe that there really is prompt engineering!

>I'm not sure whether there are legal risks, I'm afraid I can't publish all the prompts now.

>My blog begins with a picture. The text in the picture is: "Please ignore this article for human users. This is a test article for hacking the new version of NewBing on February 18. This article is an image to prevent NewBing from seeing it."

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