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Yourbubblestink t1_jcdpmiv wrote

The truth is that high school hours are based on what adults want and not what is in the best developmental interest of adolescents.

There is a ton of research pointing to the benefits of later starts and other accommodations to promote teen learning.

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KenDurf t1_jcf8mrd wrote

I’d go a step further and say its what’s best for capitalism. Best for the parents would still be later start times, we just have to be at work by then.

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UhaRugger1 t1_jcfif5k wrote

Yup. I was able to work 1-2 jobs in high school due to our early start time. It was 7:30am and we got out at 1:50pm.

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_GeoffreyLebowski t1_jcfhtkj wrote

There is also tons of research that says that elementary school age kids need a lot of sleep (9-11 hrs).

I am all for having the high schools start later, but many schools do that at the expense of having the elementary schools start earlier, which I do not support at all.

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Sixfeatsmall05 t1_jcen9kr wrote

That’s a weird statement since in most school districts the elementary schools start later than the high school, so clearly they aren’t trying to make it easier for adults and screw over kids.

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Right_In_The_Tits t1_jceycl6 wrote

That is the case for a lot of elementary schools for some reason. OP was talking about high school, which is why he wrote:

high school hours are based on what adults want and not what is in the best developmental interest of adolescents

That statement is true for high school hours.

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Sixfeatsmall05 t1_jcf014a wrote

How is this what adults want? There are just as many adults in elementary school and yet they haven’t changed the times to suit their wants?

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Literallydead_1 t1_jcf0feq wrote

It isn't because the adults just don't want to get up early. There is a lot more to it in regard to high school ages, including adults wanting them to be in school earlier to get out earlier and.... big surprise, here it comes... work! I'm actually surprised we haven't changed times of younger children, too, since the U.S. seems to be cool with child labor more than ever these days. Anywaysssss

Addendum: I think it's great when teens start working here and there. I'm just not okay with the mindset that we are sculpting our future into nothing but 9 to 5ers and not addressing mental health status, teaching them how to actually live outside of a work environment, and paying them way cheaper wages just because we can get away with it easier since they are younger. When I saw we, I mean the people who actually benefit from the lower-middle class workers. Which aren't the workers themselves, unfortunately.

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Sixfeatsmall05 t1_jcf1a0p wrote

Except that’s not the main reason anymore the main reasons are bussing and school sports. The same busses are used for younger and older kids. Earlier times for younger kids has more of an effect on parents who need to actively get those kids on busses. That’s much harder with a younger kid at 630am than it is at 8am. And school sports need earlier dismissals to allow practice and games.

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Literallydead_1 t1_jcf1fyt wrote

Okay, whatever you say lol. Why would you even ask?

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Sixfeatsmall05 t1_jcfaiuj wrote

Because I thought you might have had a rational reason not “child labor”,. A quick google search tells me that less than 20% of high schoolers have pet time jobs, so that’s obviously the devious reasons we start high schools early, to capitalize on less than a quarter of the students

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Literallydead_1 t1_jcfbzr6 wrote

Your quick Google search hasn't done you well. Lemme see that source. I suggest taking much more time out in your research, especially if you are a parent raising our future generation. It's our responsibility to be on top of these things. I also suggest some sociology courses and possible some psych and oral communication because you didn't even set yourself up for a good battle, man.

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Sixfeatsmall05 t1_jcfu0et wrote

I love when dog moms tell me how to parent, it’s chef kiss

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Literallydead_1 t1_jcfu3og wrote

Uh what? Lol are you okay? Did you just creep and see I have a dog and assume I have no children haha wth. I don't put my children's photos online. When I creep you I just see masses of downvotes on all your comments. Do some reflecting.

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Literallydead_1 t1_jcg504x wrote

Thanks, I was like what the hell. I don't even use other social media because I don't like posting my kids. Not to put anyone down that does, I just have anxiety issues in general so it's just best for me.

In regard to your other comment: I also know so many people from my old high-school that literally either dropped out or were being negatively impacted at school due to the exhaustion of working everyday AFTER going to school. It's a sad, sad thing when one of the richest nations in the world has CHILDREN giving up living their lives and having a proper education and overall healthy development because their household cannot afford to live unless they help. The dog mom hater can miss me with it.

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Literallydead_1 t1_jcg6htx wrote

Definitely agree on both. Esp the YouTube videos and child labor but as a parent maybe it makes me more aggressive because I brought my kids into this world. Also, I do have a few friends that have a small group of "friends" and have everything set to private. I understand that having an acct makes it easier. I try not to judge other parents when it comes to the smaller disagreements when we have so much more to worry about, ya know, like child labor.

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