Bywater t1_it87u06 wrote on October 21, 2022 at 5:18 PM

They tried the same shit in Cali. I swear this runaway capitalism is just fucking insane, they will try to maximize their profit at the cost of anything, environment, workers, customers, clients... Nothing is off the list of shit to fuck with. I mean they are a glorified App service, the drivers take all the risks put all the wear and tear on their vehicles and get abused by drunk fuckwits. Trying to deny them employee protection by calling them "contractors" when they are clearly in the business of giving folks rides is peak shady as well.

The_Maine_Viking t1_it9k0re wrote on October 21, 2022 at 10:51 PM

If they become "employees" then they will have to deal with things like set shifts, and taking what fairs they are told to take and not what and when they choose. People drive for Uber and Lift because they want the freedom of being able to work when they want. And while the company does not pay for maintenance costs and fuel, these are all things they can claim on their tax return.

Bywater t1_it9li2w wrote on October 21, 2022 at 11:03 PM

Ya, nothing to see here, no clear cut exploitation or anything... I mean they gave the drivers the choice of when to have there wages stolen and be denied overtime.

The_Maine_Viking t1_it9lvdm wrote on October 21, 2022 at 11:06 PM

Then they are free to go apply for a job at one of the thousands of places looking for employees. Nobody was ever forced to become an Uber driver, and nobody makes them stay.

Bywater t1_it9pgxj wrote on October 21, 2022 at 11:34 PM

Ubers business model is to exploit people not making enough where they are at. You should watch "The Gig is Up" sometime, you might not be so quick to carry water for them if you were aware of how shitty they treat the "contractors".

The_Maine_Viking t1_it9k7wz wrote on October 21, 2022 at 10:53 PM

Also, unless you are in your 70's or older you have never experienced real capitalism. The free market hasn't existed for a LONG time.

Antnee83 t1_it9n5iy wrote on October 21, 2022 at 11:16 PM

> Also, unless you are in your 70's or older you have never experienced real capitalism. The free market hasn't existed for a LONG time.

Oh that's just straight up nonsense revisionism. What's your angle here? Absence of subsidies? What?

Because basically the exact same government/business relationship existed then as it does now.

Bywater t1_it9l21e wrote on October 21, 2022 at 10:59 PM

That's assuming it ever really did. At its foundation the societal elements required as scaffolding for a "free market" ensure that you will never have a level playing field, that is required to have that free market. Adam Smith himself pointed out that even with the "invisible hand" driving things the crown, state or whatever would always pick winners and losers.

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