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The_Maine_Viking t1_it9k0re wrote
If they become "employees" then they will have to deal with things like set shifts, and taking what fairs they are told to take and not what and when they choose. People drive for Uber and Lift because they want the freedom of being able to work when they want. And while the company does not pay for maintenance costs and fuel, these are all things they can claim on their tax return.
Bywater t1_it9li2w wrote
Ya, nothing to see here, no clear cut exploitation or anything... I mean they gave the drivers the choice of when to have there wages stolen and be denied overtime.
The_Maine_Viking t1_it9lvdm wrote
Then they are free to go apply for a job at one of the thousands of places looking for employees. Nobody was ever forced to become an Uber driver, and nobody makes them stay.
Bywater t1_it9pgxj wrote
Ubers business model is to exploit people not making enough where they are at. You should watch "The Gig is Up" sometime, you might not be so quick to carry water for them if you were aware of how shitty they treat the "contractors".
The_Maine_Viking t1_it9k7wz wrote
Also, unless you are in your 70's or older you have never experienced real capitalism. The free market hasn't existed for a LONG time.
Antnee83 t1_it9n5iy wrote
> Also, unless you are in your 70's or older you have never experienced real capitalism. The free market hasn't existed for a LONG time.
Oh that's just straight up nonsense revisionism. What's your angle here? Absence of subsidies? What?
Because basically the exact same government/business relationship existed then as it does now.
Bywater t1_it9l21e wrote
That's assuming it ever really did. At its foundation the societal elements required as scaffolding for a "free market" ensure that you will never have a level playing field, that is required to have that free market. Adam Smith himself pointed out that even with the "invisible hand" driving things the crown, state or whatever would always pick winners and losers.
edit: punctuation
Shh-NotUntilMyCoffee t1_it7olah wrote
I guess "Enough is Enough" was, in fact, Not Enough.
ReallyFineWhine t1_it8yu3b wrote
Claiming to be fighting on behalf of their workers... Yeah.
Huge_Strain_8714 t1_it9agu7 wrote
Anything that is called gig economy is for one purpose alone to make the company money at any cost. Employees are ends to a means, there's no culture, identity, camaraderie, commonality. It's sterile and disgusting
CaptSkinny t1_it9nzjn wrote
The popularity of the gig economy among workers would suggest that that is not a universally held view.
I don't personally care for those jobs myself, but I wouldn't have the hubris to suggest the opportunity should be taken away from those who do.
Huge_Strain_8714 t1_it9qm01 wrote
Of course. This is my opinion that I'm typing with two thumbs on a 6-in screen. And don't really go into a 20 paragraph reason why. But yes of course it works for some people, it didn't work for me, it'll work for others and then It won't work for others. But the Gigs are not care to uplift you financially or personally or professionally. They will tell you that. They will literally tell you you're just a piece of meat.lol
Bywater t1_ita4188 wrote
I think you meant the "poverty" instead of popularity...
The_Maine_Viking t1_it9kx8v wrote
All the things you mentioned, people who choose to work the gig economy don't really care about. You are just trying to impose your beliefs and feelings on them.
Huge_Strain_8714 t1_it9p31z wrote
I've been there so... it's called an opinion and thanks for you opinion. God bless.
respaaaaaj t1_it84icm wrote
Same shit they pulled in California
P-Townie t1_it9kzg2 wrote
Any chance The Drivers Cooperative could replace Uber?
SplinterLips t1_ita2ke3 wrote
This is cool.
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determania t1_itadq3y wrote
Oh, so that’s why I’ve gotten texts about it
Trilliam_West t1_itb6uy6 wrote
Anyone have a (non-paywall) breakdown of this proposal? Is it different than AB5 in California?
AB5 was a disaster and the only reason it didn't get more attention was because COVID hit.
Bywater t1_it87u06 wrote
They tried the same shit in Cali. I swear this runaway capitalism is just fucking insane, they will try to maximize their profit at the cost of anything, environment, workers, customers, clients... Nothing is off the list of shit to fuck with. I mean they are a glorified App service, the drivers take all the risks put all the wear and tear on their vehicles and get abused by drunk fuckwits. Trying to deny them employee protection by calling them "contractors" when they are clearly in the business of giving folks rides is peak shady as well.