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I’m not a lawyer but I think you may need one. I think it would be a good idea to file a police report but I’m not sure.

I would absolutely file a report with the police. It would seem as though you have a dangerous dog living in your neighborhood and this needs to be reported. Maine has leash laws for public roads. I would guess if it hasn’t happened already, it’s only a matter of time before a person gets attacked.

I hope your dog is okay and I’m really sorry this happened to them. It’s a terrifying ordeal.

Police report and get a lawyer

Police report and call animal control. They will take action. You may be able to file for your expenses in small claims court without a lawyer.

1000% police report... before the loose dog kills another, or a kid. Perhaps they've been called about the dog prior.

Sorry about your shitty neighbor.

It was almost a full minute of my dog being mauled. I was about to shoot the other dog but my girl was able to knock the other dog over and fight back. The fucking neighbor comes out right after it was done and says “it’s ok, she’s just mouthy”.

I’m def filing a police report tomorrow am. Do you think he will know I filed one?

Open carry. If a dog attacks. Shoot it.

I conceal carry when I’m outside my house bc of this dog. I’d rather open carry my full sized pistol but I worry that could escalate things.

Yes, he'll be notified. As he should be. His dog was not under his control when it attacked your dog. He should be fined and he should volunteer to pay for your dog's vet bills. It's state law that a dog be vaccinated for rabies and, with a current vaccination, it's law that the dog be registered in the town in which it resides. You need to know if the dog has current vaccinations. If it isn't vaccinated and registered, those are two additional violations. I hope your dog is okay and I wish you good luck .

And if you don't want to carry a gun, carry a can of wasp spray. It can disable an attacker (human or canine) from 20 feet away.

File a police report and call animal control for sure and send this jerk the vet bill ! and talk to a personal injury lawyer also in Maine you have the right to shoot an animal attacking you

Can he be forced to pay the vet bills?

Police report. Lawyer.

Have to take him to small claims

Get a lawyer. There are leash laws for a reason

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First I'm sorry this happened to you and your dog!! I would file a report and report it to animal control. You can take him to court for the cost as he should absolutely pay for your dogs vets bills!!

Also this is coming from someone who's dog attacked someone's dog walking on our road, his collar had died, he left the yard and attacked a dog who's family was walking it I was HORRIFIED I loaded the mom, daughter and wounded dog into my car and we immediately drove to an emergency vet and the dad met us there later with their vehicle. I paid all costs upfront, we did have to quarantine our dog because they rightfully reported it to animal control. We had to prove our dog had his rabies vaccine too. The dog was OK a puncture wound that required a few stitches and thankfully that was all.

Definitely file a police report and call the local Animal Control Officer. I would look into a lawyer or maybe it can be handled in small claims court for the bills? I'm sorry your pup had to go through this! What can you do to make sure you don't encounter that dog with her again?

What town did this happen in? I like to know if there's a potentially mean dog nearby.

Call the police and file a report. Then call animal control and file a report.

Then file charges and sue.

Best of luck with this. I'd not be so measured as you are...that dog would already be dead if it were me.

Or you could shoot the guys dog…just a thought

File a police report. Contact animal control, or what ever it is called in your area. With each call, also ask who else you should be contacting.

And ask the vet to give your a print out to use in your legal case against the neighbor.

Here's the contact information for animal control in Bangor ME. Contact them ASAP. Go care for your pup first though. https://www.bangormaine.gov/content/318/354/1138/default.aspx

Call the police and explain the dog has already attacked your dog and presents a threat to you and your family. They will send an officer. I recently went through something similar and the owner of the attacking dog was court mandated to keep the dog on a leash at all times while in public. She refused, I called again and the dog was removed from her ownership. It’s important to remember that the animal may not be to blame in this situation. I was raised training and hunting with dogs and my father also said “There’s no such thing ad a bad dog. Just bad training.”

Call the police for sure and animal control.

Here's the law in Maine. Take a look at pages 60 and 66

https://www.maine.gov/dacf/ahw/animal_welfare/documents/2022-AWP-law-book.pdf

Yeah. That isn't just a scratch, that is a whole entire injury. Animal control needs to be contacted, because the dog might not even have shots, and definitely call the cops. That dog is DANGEROUS.

You would be smart to report the incident ASAP... Further delays will only give your shitty neighbor an opportunity To plan his defense...and as happened to me, the dog owner claimed I provoked the attack and I was interrogated by the police.

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Police report!! 1,000%. Sounds like the other dog had intent to kill yours and with nonchalant owners to boot. I am so sorry this happened to you and your poor pup. Wishing a speedy recovery and some fucking justice.

File a police report. This person seems dangerous and deranged. Watch your back. I'm terribly sorry for what you're going through.

I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that the law would have been very much on your side had you decided to shoot.

Personally I wouldn't open carry for the reason you stated. A police officer friend of mine heartily recommends mace for dealing with dogs.

Get all receipts and police reports, you need to go through official channels with these yahoos, pay the vet now and make this garbage pay later

This a-hole neighbor’s homeowners insurance should cover it. Call police. File report. Submit vet bill to neighbor and tell him if he doesn’t pay up you’ll get a a lawyer and file a claim on his homeowners insurance.

Call animal control in the morning. Your neighbors dog will have to be quarantined because of the injuries for 10 days. Depending on the severity, that dog may be registered as a nuisance or, I’m going to guess from the picture, will have to be registered as a “dangerous” animal. your neighbor will have to go to court (animal control will file a report along with the PD). Once you have that together, file a claim with your homeowners insurance (if you have it). They will go after your neighbor (or insurance) for damages. This part is easier if you go through an attorney, honestly. (Source: just went through the same thing with my pup). Best of luck to you and I hope your pup makes a full recovery.

First call a cop and file a police report so they can go talk to this guy also.

2nd start Carrying some form of mace or even bear foam . A lot of people will respond how could you but it’s better then anybody being hurt you or the Dog or your dog.

Spray across the face from eye to eye is all it takes.

I don’t always carry a gun with me but I mostly have Saber red or freeZe plus p on me and in both my cars. My wife carry’s it also and I will tell my kids to carry it when they start driving and such .

It’s not an answer to all problems but it is mostly a safe method to defend yourself .

Somebody on serious drugs it might not effect much … it doesn’t beat a gun by any means . Easier to use then you would expect .

Police report, animal control, probably a lawyer for the civil suit you'll be filing for damages (aka the vet bills, mental anguish, etc).

Key question: At any time, were you afraid the dog would attack YOU?

Shoot it.

let me guess, pitbull?

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If he is charged with dangerous or nuisance dog vet bills can be part of the court ordered restitution. And yes 100% call the police and talk to the animal control officer. (Animal control officer here. Not for Bangor though. )

You sure you’re not a Mainer? This shit sounds so Maine.

Police report, lawyer, lawsuit. I hope your girl is gonna be okay🙏

This is one where you have to do something. That could be some kid's face next time.

"Just mouthy"? This person is delusional, and a bad owner. You're doing the right thing filing a report.

Most irresponsible dog owners are

You should have shot it. Put an end to it quick.

Just to add to this, the police always talk to the dog owner first. So be prepared to have to debunk some serious BS. If you yourself are a reasonable person, ask yourself “what kind of person would I need to call animal control against”.

I’ve called animal control on someone who left their dog in their yard just screaming at the wind for hours, when it was extremely obvious it just wanted to go inside, and the owner claimed I had threatened them and their dog. Complete piece of shit person

Police report and a lawyer! This dog is dangerous and they are responsible for the damage he’s done. Maine has leash laws!

A friend of mine was walking his dog and it got attacked by a pit bull. He had to go through the court system and was finally awarded repayment by the pittie owner for the thousands in vet bills he spent. Sadly, and this is likely the case with your neighbor, that weirdo had no money and my buddy only ever got like $50 repaid.

I'd call the cops every time anyway.

Hi! I have terrible neighbors too. It won’t get better. File reports and keep copies of everything.

No matter what happens I would pay for my dogs well being. If your dog is injured you need to get it medical attention.

Fuck waiting for them. You pay now then get your money back later.

Extremely dangerous dog owner. They are keeping an aggressive dog off a leash... It's a tragedy waiting to happen, could be a child next. It sucks because I'm sure they love their dog and genuinely don't belive its aggressive, but it has to stop.

That said, definitely take pictures of the dog off leash if you can, and present them to the police. Get video, if possible, of any altercation. It's your word against theirs unfortunately, and you need evidence if you are going to court.

You should be free to walk your dog without that risk.

Really sorry to hear about your dog, but glad she was able to defend herself, a lot of times it's very one-sided and "over" quickly...

His fucking dog was in my yard this am. I literally have to carry a gun in my own yard. Waiting for the sheriff as we speak. Not fucking around with this asshole.

https://i.imgur.com/zwV737S.jpg

Hindsight I wish I did. I didn’t realize the damage that was being done and I was worried he might come out with a gun.

I have pictures and security cam footage. Sheriff is coming over to have a chat with me. https://i.imgur.com/fqry2dl.jpg

Done and done. Waiting on the boys in blue as we speak. Although they are already late.

How is your pup? Friend here at home had her dog killed by a dangerous dog. She took them to small claims and got everything back. The dog was returned to the owner by animal control with a requirement that the dog be tethered, leashed, and muzzled at all times when outside.

I am so sorry for your dog. Unfortunately it’s more about shitty people and not dogs. I hope he pays!

I would call a personal injury attorney and file a police report.

Call Joe

Lol. You’re partially correct. If I had to guess, it’s a lab pit rottie mix. I’m not sure tho.

I took her immediately to Camden (only place open). 1100 for the first bill, I will need at least 2 follow ups and possibly one more surgery

This is what happens with dogs like the one who attacked yours. Their people must do better. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/25/amazon-driver-dies-dogs-shot-apparent-animal-attack

Animal control officer in Bangor doesn’t play games. File a police report and have this looked into before someone gets hurt

https://i.imgur.com/iWFQKVW.jpg

She’s VERY sad but she’s going to make a full recovery.

Glad to hear it. The going to be OK part.

OP said in another comment they have security footage so should be pretty cut and dry hopefully

Some good mace could be effective while also being less drastic and legally complicated.

Call animal control to collect that “lab-mix”

Police report and lawyer.

And a security camera.

> The fucking neighbor comes out right after it was done and says “it’s ok, she’s just mouthy”.

I swear, they always say this kind of shit. I got bit by an unleashed dog while running, no owner in sight, so I just yelled "CONTROL YOUR FUCKING DOG" and kept going with my run.

About 5 mins later the dog's owner chased me down in the car to apologize and assure me that the dog "would never bite."

She was pretty surprised when I showed her the rip in my pants and the bite marks.

Report ,lawyer, sue him

I hear there is some guy up north that just shoots rowdy dogs.

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Let the legal system handle it stay away from that person at all costs.

Pibble owners be like look at my baby. mauls infant

Fook yea, get 'em!

I had a dog biting me in the nads in a public street.

I yelled at the owner, right there, "CALL OFF YOUR DOG."

They told me I "set her off" by yelling. They are the heroes in their own world.

Born and raised in rural northern NH…basically a different branch on the same tree

Oh I am so very sorry for you and your pup. She surely didn’t deserve this. Those are a lot of injuries….agree to everything above. I would be FURIOUS, and I’m sure that you are. I hope she makes a full recovery …and btw, Dr Bach’s Rescue Remedy for pets (flower essence) will help to keep your pup calm after such trauma. May I ask her name and breed? Her fur looks Yellow Lab ? Sue that dude

The shelter said she’s a red heeler mix. I did a DNA test and it said she’s majority heeler and the rest is boxer.

https://imgur.com/a/QI8aBvp/

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This is why God gave us guns.

If the dog is on my property I would shoot it.

That dog should be under mandatory quarantine. At least for 10 days. Since the owner cannot control their dog, they will end up having to register it as “dangerous”. (This will be ordered by the court). The owner will have to formally register the dog as a dangerous animal, post signs on their property, muzzle the dog and keep in on a lead of no more than 3 feet when off property, notify the sheriff and animal control whenever it is loose, if outside and on property, the dog must be contained by a six foot fence. They may require it’s assessed by a animal behaviorist and undergo mandatory training. However, if that dog is on your property, without being under the control of its owner, you are 100% within your right to dispatch the animal. I’m sorry you’re going through this. I hope it all works out for you.

Pepper spray for animals

Everytime my dogs and I have been attacked it’s been a different breed: lab, basset hound, pugs, Shepard both cattle and Aussie. The sweetest dog in our neighborhood is a silly Rottweiler.

There are bad owners, not bad breeds.

I would have shot the dog at about the 10 second mark, but that's just me

I was being indecisive. I didn’t realize the full extent of the damage that the dog was inflicting, and I was worried that the neighbor would come out with a gun too. I wish I shot the dog in hindsight. My girl got fucked up.

I just got done with the Sheriff, he advised me to not step foot on this guys property. Do everything through animal control/certified mail. He also basically told me to shoot the dog if it steps foot on my property or comes after me in the road. Don’t wait for it to attack.

good sheriff

Call the police, but if you want them to pay the bills it’s going to be a civil suit. Hire a lawyer to talk about that.

I'd just kill that dog before it tears up a kid. I love animals, I really do but if your dog has shown that it is dangerous and is now mauling my dog I am going to kick it to pieces or shoot it.

People like to blame it on the breed instead of just accepting that some humans are garbage.

Let it. Sometimes that is the only thing that people understand.

I don’t understand people who act like this. I have a dog who is the sweetest and has never acted aggressive towards myself or anyone else. Even when a friends toddler tried to take his food bowl he just sat there patiently waiting for the kid to give it back. STILL I make sure he is leashed or fenced at all times outside. I can’t read his mind. Something could make him react or snap. I don’t want to be responsible if someone gets hurt. I don’t want him to get hurt either! I don’t even bring him to dog parks anymore because I’ve seen too many people bring their obviously aggressive dogs there with no regard for what might happen.

I have to carry a gun in my own yard too because of a neighbor's off-leash dangerous breed dogs that they refuse to control. I love dogs, hell, critters in general, but I'm not taking any chances with the lives of my loved ones. It bites, it dies.

If I were you, I would consult with a lawyer regarding a civil suit for damages such as emotional distress and loss of quiet enjoyment. Your security camera footage is very useful showing a dangerous dog on your property, which is emotionally distressing, causing anxiety, fear, and loss of enjoyment of your property, right?

Because take it from me, these people aren't going to control their dog, they aren't going to move, and they aren't going to put up a fence at their cost to contain their dangerous animal unless you make them.

I’ve spoken with the sheriff today, he basically said to shoot the dog if it comes onto my property or if it runs at me off leash in the road. Still waiting for animal control to show up, they are 5 hours late…

I am going down the civil suit road if he refuses to pay up ($1100 for the first vet visit, will need two more visits and possibly another surgery). I have a feeling he won’t tho. The sheriff also advised me to handle all contact with this man through animal control and certified mail, not to step foot on his property.

They won't. People like that don't do what they're supposed to do in any way shape or form, which is why they have a dog that attacks other dogs running around at large to begin with.

Don't wait for them to do the right thing, make them do the right thing. Because they won't otherwise. Don't even give them the opportunity to disregard this.

Sound advice from law enforcement at least.

Palmyra.

As others have commented, he might be forced to pay if he is cited with violations. Or, you may have to take him to small claims court. But you definitely need to file a police report, file a report with your city's animal control officer, and keep a paper/photo trail of everything. Good luck.

ABSOLUTELY call animal control and file a police report, letting your dog roam at large is a violation in itself as far as I know, let alone the fact that the dog is aggressive and attacking other animals and humans. Hold that fucker accountable, I'm so sorry that you and your sweet pup are going through this and I hope she makes a quick recovery.

>https://i.imgur.com/fqry2dl.jpg

I wish more ACOs in Maine were that way, used to work in shelters and I feel like a majority of them don't give a fuck and I genuinely wonder why they work the job they do if they aren't going to perform their basic job functions.

This worlds turned into the wild Wild West.

That’s crazy, if that were the throat that dog would be dead. I wouldn’t even have thought twice that dog would have gotten a bullet on your property also mind you that no hesitation fuck your neighbor

Police report immediately

Haha yeah nice up there.

Police, animal control, a lawyer, and a weapons store.

I carry a weapon every single time I'm out with my dogs for this very reason.

You had a gun and didn't shoot that thing? I hope you learned that lesson!

Shoot that fucking thing and don't think twice.

Mace will not stop a real dog fight. Shooting a dog that is attacking you or your property is not legally complicated.

Hopefully you learned not to try to keep a dog in an electric fence, and put up a real fence.

Um, it's an aggressive and dangerous dog that tried to kill another animal unprovoked. It's a BAD DOG.

As predictable as the tides, aren't they. Fucking useless menace animals.

Yes, there are bad breeds and pit bull is one of the worst.

Very sorry to read the edit describing her injuries. Were you able to reach animal control and file a police report?

Police report is done. Animal control is MIA. Dog is still wandering around my property. Sheriff basically told me to shoot the dog if it steps on my property or looks at me funny.

She’s going to be ok, I’ll probably do an update once animal control comes through.

Yeah stay on animal control because my understanding is that they are sort of in charge with these situations. The dog is wandering around your property? WTF. Did the owner indicate any sense of responsibility towards your dogs injuries?

I'm glad she's going to be OK.

I was definitely indecisive. My main concern was the other dogs owner hearing the shot, comes outside and sees that I killed his dog, and then shoots me. I only had a 5 shot revolver and who knows what he’s packing.

In hindsight I wish I shot the dog and then gtfo of there. Even then, we live 200 feet apart and he can see my house through the trees.

The dog went straight for the throat, she actually hit my dogs collar which came right off. I think it saved her life. Her throat is all bruised and bloody but not punctured.

https://i.imgur.com/OXxEpek.jpg

Not shown is the puncture at the base of her tail. It’s literally right above her ass. They can’t sew it shut and I have to pick any scabs off it so it heals from the inside out. Which is extremely painful for my girl

No, I spent about a minute alternating between screaming at the dog to stay back and screaming at the house asking why no one is coming outside. Finally, he comes out. I yell that his dog attacked mine, he replies “it’s ok, she’s just mouthy”. I walked away bc I needed to check my dog for injuries and to get away from his dog.

Edit: his dog took a shit in my yard this am. I was still sleeping so he lives another day.

Yes ask the police what your next move should be. If it cost vet bills and is serious for sure they should pay damages its their fault. If you can sue for bills than I would. I Imagine their dog could do a lot of damages and it's just not cool to just say. "Oh, it's okai" because it's kinda not.

Does the other owner know how seriously injured your dog is? That's awful.

Damn I’m sooo sorry 😞 that’s unfortunate

Sorry.. got to do the police report. No one wants to.. but that's twice too many times.

I ended up leaving with my kids a few months later and he kept the dog(s) they were his before... but no fence was never put up it was an HOA and wasn't allowed anyway

I still feel awful that happened to that family and did my best to make right at the time

I tried to read as many comments as I could. Obviously the sheriff is correct, all contact thru them and AC. Shoot the dog if need be. HOWEVER, you may be able to avoid litigation… Have the AC or sheriff get the home owners insurance info, file a claim thru them. You may even be able to have your Insurance pay and go after the owner to collect.

Man I am a dog lover, but I don’t know how you had the strength to hold your emotions back. I would want to find the pin for my property line and lace it with nuts, seeds and anything a squirrel or mouse would eat. One foot past that line I would want to dig a shallow flower garden also known as a grave..

Make sure to keep your dog clearly on your property, leashed, on a electric fence or something so they can’t just shoot yours and claim she was on their land.

I am so sorry to hear about your dog. Those are some nasty puncture wounds. Just wanted to mention that punctures abcess very easily. What happens is the skin heals over the top while the wound inside heals much more slowly. Keep a very close eye on them and watch for redness, puffiness, and heat. Sending healing thoughts.

Thanks! I’m keeping a close eye on them. The worst one (according to the vet) is a puncture right at the base of her tail. They need to leave it open to drain and I need to peel the scabs off as they form so it heals from the inside out. Apparently it will get infected if I don’t do that and she will “lose all the skin on her butt”.

I've seen videos of mace working on a real dog fight. Discharging a firearm is a big deal and can endanger bystanders, could be within city limits, etc. Your dog is your property and not your life and it absolutely can be legally complicated. Stop talking out of your ass.

Glad to hear you were armed, especially if the aggressive dog decided to attack you, there's no reason to hold back at that point, and you'd being doing everyone a favor.

Yes, keep them open as they heal. Warm compresses help with that. Also there are ointments vets can give you to pack the wound with that help with tissue granulation, but with a dog that is difficult because they tend to lick their wounds when they can reach them. I had a sheep once with a deep abcess and the tissue granulation ointment worked really well. Watch for flies too, I hate to say.... You definitely don't want them near those wounds.

If mace worked, it wasn't a real dog fight.

People think a lot of noise and drama is a "dog fight" and have never seen or had to break up a real one.

Understandable. Next time - because there WILL be a next time - don't hesitate.

Don’t let up on animal control, blow up their phone if you have to until it gets handled to hold your POS neighbor accountable. Unfortunately they seem to love being unreachable and never returning phone calls from what I’ve witnessed in many towns/cities here.

She looks so king and gentle. And she is Beautiful …I know that she will recover from this horrid attack and that you will find Justice for her

Next time. Shoot the dog.

Shoot it. It’s on private property and has already attacked.

Don't breed blame. Its not the breed its the owners every time.

Animal control is still MIA. I’ve called 7 times and explained to them my dog nearly died, the offending dog shit in my yard yesterday and I fear for my safety on my property. Nbd I guess. I think I should call state police if no one reaches out to me in the next hour

Rather than spending energy supporting a breed that was selectively bred to kill both dogs and humans, spend some money to help those were attacked by unprovoked sweet pibblebears that couldn’t hurt a fly:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/dyxtp-my-mom

I’m hoping this is sarcasm but its so hard to tell….

Don’t shoot the head, they need it for rabies testing. With the documentation you have, you are well within your rights to kill it on YOUR PROPERTY! The consequence may well be retaliation on their part. It’s a two edged sword.

This is often overlooked! Nice thing about this is their homeowner insurance will drop them after a claim is made.

Here are the organizations that agree Breed Specific Laws are bullshit;

>American Veterinary Medical Association, the American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior, the ASPCA, the CDC, the American Bar Association, the American Kennel Club, the National Animal Care & Control Association, the National Canine Research Council, the Humane Society.

So no, not sarcasm. Imagine disagreeing with this group on animal laws and right.

Did you actually read any of those? Most of them say it does not work because you cant effectively identify what breed a dog is visually in all cases. That CDC link in particular said Pit Bull/Rottweilers accounted for over half all fatalities. Two breeds, HALF of all fatalities. There are hundreds of breeds of dogs....

Listen, I love dogs, but theres only one type of dog that you see in the news that is killing multiple kids, and ripping the arms of mothers who try to intervene. Its not Dobermans (who actually are misunderstood and are safe dogs), its not Akitas, its not Golden Retrievers or Chihuahuas. So yeah, people can continue saying "its AlwaYs the owNeR" but you don't see Great Danes snapping and killing multiple kids and parents.

Are Pit Bulls the only dogs who have bad owners?

https://time.com/2891180/kfc-and-the-pit-bull-attack-of-a-little-girl/

>Pit bulls make up only 6% of the dog population, but they’re responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982, according to research compiled by Merritt Clifton, editor of Animals 24-7, an animal-news organization that focuses on humane work and animal-cruelty prevention.

>Another report published in the April 2011 issue of Annals of Surgery found that one person is killed by a pit bull every 14 days, two people are injured by a pit bull every day, and young children are especially at risk. The report concludes that “these breeds should be regulated in the same way in which other dangerous species, such as leopards, are regulated.”

Did you not actually read you own links? CDC link literally says pitbulls/Rottweilers contribute to 50% of fatalities

O you poor summer child, please go actually read the whole thing;

> The CDC strongly recommends against breed-specific laws in its oft-cited study of fatal dog attacks, noting that data collection related to bites by breed is fraught with potential sources of error (Sacks et al., 2000). Specifically, the authors of this and other studies cite the inherent difficulties in breed identification (especially among mixed-breed dogs) and in calculating a breed’s bite rate given the lack of consistent data on breed population and the actual number of bites occurring in a community, especially when the injury is not deemed serious enough to require treatment in an emergency room (Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001; Collier, 2006). Supporting the concern regarding identification, a recent study noted a significant discrepancy between visual determination of breed and DNA determination of breed (Voith et al., 2009).

The study points out specifically that it’s data is completely wrong, and recommends against Breed Specific Laws - attributing the issue to human error from unwarranted bias against specific breeds.

Now go read the other links too instead of cherry picking for a Hail Mary.

No actually, the CDC says the misreporting of breeds makes pitbulls and Rottweilers abnormally higher in their statistics. Please go read it again, as the CDC specifically states it is against BLS.

CDC doesn’t gather the statistics, they analyze them. They’re pointing out that human bias ruins the data leading to incorrect conclusions on breeds.

If you can’t understand the study - apparently - you can read the analysis from one of the other major organizations.

Again, fault of the owner. Not the breeds.

> The CDC strongly recommends against breed-specific laws in its oft-cited study of fatal dog attacks, noting that data collection related to bites by breed is fraught with potential sources of error (Sacks et al., 2000).

As the American Veterinarian Medical Association explains;

> It is not possible to calculate a bite rate for a breed or to compare rates between breeds because the data reported is often unreliable. This is because:

>The breed of a biting dog is often not known or is reported inaccurately. The actual number of bites that occur in a community is not known, especially if they don't result in serious injury. The number of dogs of a particular breed or combination of breeds in a community is not known because it is rare for all dogs in a community to be licensed. Statistics often do not consider multiple incidents caused by a single animal. Breed popularity changes over time, making comparison of breed-specific bite rates unreliable. However a review of the research that attempts to quantify the relation between breed and bite risk finds the connection to be weak or absent, while responsible ownership variables such as socialization, neutering and proper containment of dogs are much more strongly indicated as important risk factors

I'll ask again, are Pit Bulls the only dogs with bad owners? How do you reconcile that they overwhelmingly hurt more people than other dogs? Just bad luck?

>Injuries from Pitbull's and mixed breed dogs were both more frequent and more severe.

Essig GF Jr, Sheehan C, Rikhi S, Elmaraghy CA, Christophel JJ. Dog bite injuries to the face: Is there risk with breed ownership? A systematic review with meta-analysis. Int J Pediatr Otorhinolaryngol. 2019 Feb;117:182-188. doi: 10.1016/j.ijporl.2018.11.028. Epub 2018 Nov 29. PMID: 30579079.

>Attacks by Pit Bull Terriers are more likely to cause severe morbidity than other breeds of dogs.

Harnarayan P, Islam S, Ramsingh C, Naraynsingh V. Pit Bull attack causing limb threatening vascular trauma -A case series. Int J Surg Case Rep. 2018;42:133-137. doi: 10.1016/j.ijscr.2017.11.061. Epub 2017 Dec 8. PMID: 29245098; PMCID: PMC5730392.

>Pit-bull type was the most frequently implicated breed (27%)

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>Pet dogs were responsible for 42% of injuries, and pit bull was the most-identified breed (36.2%).

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>Attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs.

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> The most common breed of dog identified was pit bull (n = 29, 47.5%).

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Looks like someone else did the work in another thread Please just donate money to help those attacked by “bad owners”.

I can’t even imagine how much good you could do to the world if you spent your energy helping others over defending breeds of animals that were biologically groomed to kill both humans and dogs.

All dogs were bred for very specific purposes.

Heelers bred for cattle. Newfoundlands and labradors for fowl hunting. Bloodhounds for scent tracking. Shepards for herding. Huskies and malamutes for sled towing. Hell Chihuahuas were bred specifically to listen for coyotes.

Pitbulls? Blood sport

They have nothing on Shar Pei’s. Those fuckers are insane. They are bred to have crazy loose skin so nothing can really bite them. One of them ripped off my beagles leg back when I was a kid. Worst dog attack I’ve ever seen.

There are definitely some dangerous breeds out there but pit bulls do the most damage by a HUGE margin, by all measures.