joysef99 t1_iuwso49 wrote
Reply to comment by IamSauerKraut in Signs your mailing list might be out of date - when you, the previous owner of your house, and the previous owner before THEM all get the same mailer from the Maine Republican Party by figment1979
Oh, I'm well aware. I've done my time volunteering or being put on the phones during political marketing campaigns.😉 Most people don't understand the VAN at all. In addition, when you tell a person calling to remove you or give them updated info, there are multiple folks working from the same lists, and they may never get updated with corrections.
IamSauerKraut t1_iuwvkcb wrote
The lack of updating is my biggest bitch about VAN and its cousin, mini-VAN, especially when the person to be contacted has been dead for 3 years already!
siebzy t1_ixqpg10 wrote
If anyone wants to talk actual facts about VAN, I'd be happy to do so in DMs. I've been working with the platform professionally for a decade and at an admin level for 5 years.
siebzy t1_ixqpomt wrote
I agree that it's annoying, difficult to use, mostly dogshit piece of software, but most of the problems people ascribe to VAN aren't actually the fault of the software.
IamSauerKraut t1_ixrkong wrote
On a practical matter, it does not matter who gets blamed for the faults or the shortcomings. What is important is that neither VAN nor mini-VAn work quite are promised, to the point that I've gone back to paper. Annoys the candidate, but I'd rather the candidate be annoyed than the folks on whose doors I am knocking.
siebzy t1_ixrlmf6 wrote
If you dont return data to the system (whether collected via Mini VAN or printed lists), it doesn't work as designed.
Not sure who is making promises, or what they are promising, but VAN works pretty darn well for what it's designed for when used properly, even if the interface is clunky and outdated and overly complicated.
IamSauerKraut t1_ixs2nby wrote
>Not sure who is making promises, or what they are promising, but VAN works pretty darn well for what it's designed for when used properly, even if the interface is clunky and outdated and overly complicated.
That covers just about every excuse for why it does not work, especially the "when used properly" part.
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