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Candygramformrmongo t1_ixczazf wrote

Reply to comment by DifferenceMore5431 in Damn by Popomatik

The point is your initial reaction is doubt and denial rather than concern and digging for yourself. Does that help?

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DifferenceMore5431 t1_ixczwy5 wrote

The data doesn't make any sense. I have no opinion about whether Maine is high or low. NJ and NY are similar states with very similar populations, you would expect them to be similar in this respect. Likewise WA and OR are showing as wildly different even though they too are quite similar.

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demalo t1_ixd66ke wrote

NJ is a smaller state than NY. There is more rural area in NY. There are a lot of differences between the states, I’m sure there are plenty more than what I’ve mentioned.

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DifferenceMore5431 t1_ixd8wh2 wrote

This is nonsense, they are extremely similar. NY has more somewhat more people but the demographics are extremely similar. E.g. from the census info for NJ vs NY:

  • under 18: 21.8% vs 20.7%
  • white: 71.1% vs 69.1%
  • foreign born: 22.7% vs 22.4%
  • college degree: 40.7% vs 37.5%
  • lacking health insurance: 8.4% vs 6.1%
  • poverty: 10.2% vs 13.9%

Nothing there explains a 10X difference in child abuse rates.

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demalo t1_ixdcj7c wrote

There are 10 million more people in NY than NJ.

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DifferenceMore5431 t1_ixe7bp9 wrote

...these numbers are already adjusted for population. According to OP, 1.5% of kids in NY are abused and only 0.2% in NJ.

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IamSauerKraut t1_ixd1q6y wrote

>NJ and NY are similar states with very similar populations, you would expect them to be similar in this respect.

You would expect, eh? Well, clearly they are not. Maine needs to do better instead of folks saying why are they not as sucky as us?

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Extreme-Status-5776 t1_ixd4jo5 wrote

One can still empathize with victims and question the legitimacy of the statistic. Trying to solve a problem using bad data isn’t helpful and with all of these things, especially when they’re extrapolated, it’s good to think about the mechanisms. For example, another way to read this chart is Pennsylvania has one of the highest rates of unreported child abuse, an even bigger issue than reported child abuse. Before you go white knighting on everyone, try not assume the worst of everyone’s intentions

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