joeydokes OP t1_iyazort wrote on November 30, 2022 at 1:33 AM

Reply to comment by ryoushure in RSV - and what I thought/hoped was Mainers common sense by joeydokes

> Don't insist that everyone else conform to your faux consensus manifested by the largest propaganda blitz we have ever witnessed/experienced.

I appreciate long and thoughtful replies, even though I may not agree with them. But you are basically saying "free the germs, don't bother with vaccinations" because of detrimental effects of dealing with it, because its fruitless to try, and doing so makes you a pawn of big gov propaganda. And, mostly, because you don't like anyone telling you what you should or need to do. Maybe you should try NH, or AZ, or ID for more sympathetic audiences.

You've beefed up all your talking points to reinforce why you're right and I'm wrong; why anyone recommending social protections are wrong.

Not the "the prolonged negative affects of irrational and detrimental pandemic 'response'" so much as the prolonged negative effects that people like you, disinclined to vax or mask just because 'beliefs', are exacting on the community writ large.

There's nothing irrational about protection though it does have its downsides. I'm no fan of big pharma, or the government FTM, still, sometimes you bite the bullet and do what's right. The CV19 vax is not immunity (yet) but mitigation, RSV has no vax, Mpox is here as are a host of other germs easily spread in our globalized planet.

But no, you pat yourself on the back for being a 'free thinker' while 2 minutes perusing your post history, and all the negative points all your replies generate, illustrate how off the mark you are trolling for nobody's benefit but your own.

ryoushure t1_iyb5qqq wrote on November 30, 2022 at 2:19 AM

>I appreciate long and thoughtful replies, even though I may not agree with them. But you are basically saying "free the germs, don't bother with vaccinations" because of detrimental effects of dealing with it, because its fruitless to try, and doing so makes you a pawn of big gov propaganda. And, mostly, because you don't like anyone telling you what you should or need to do. Maybe you should try NH, or AZ, or ID for more sympathetic audiences.

Nice try putting words in my mouth. See look I can do it too. You are basically saying "if you don't wear a mask I think you are a second grade citizen that deserves every bit of contempt and I will take joy in mocking your death." See not very nice is it? Don't conflate being confronted with inconvenient detrimental effects of masking/pandemic response with calling for sneezing into people's faces.

But look at you, going and telling other people where they should live to be more like their kind. Ain't that cunnin. Won't you pretty please allow me to live here sir?

>You've beefed up all your talking points to reinforce why you're right and I'm wrong; why anyone recommending social protections are wrong.

Is this your way of saying you have trouble debating the points I made but your propensity to haughtiness precludes your willingness to try or be persuaded?

>Not the "the prolonged negative affects of irrational and detrimental pandemic 'response'" so much as the prolonged negative effects that people like you, disinclined to vax or mask just because 'beliefs', are exacting on the community writ large

Who is exacting what exactly? Is this a "this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated" quip? In December 2022? Are you sure?

>There's nothing irrational about protection though it does have its downsides. I'm no fan of big pharma, or the government FTM, still, sometimes you bite the bullet and do what's right. The CV19 vax is not immunity (yet) but mitigation, RSV has no vax, Mpox is here as are a host of other germs easily spread in our globalized planet.

There is nothing irrational with taking proactive measures for your individual health and/or expressing your ideas/opinions on best measures. That is not an invitation for coercion or bypassing informed consent. That is not a justification to exile anyone from society that does not conform to your specific ideologically motivated proactive measure regiment, no matter how much you believe your views are consensus. You make a great argument against globalisation though I guess.

>But no, you pat yourself on the back for being a 'free thinker' while 2 minutes perusing your post history, and all the negative points all your replies generate, illustrate how off the mark you are trolling for nobody's benefit but your own.

Lol

joeydokes OP t1_iybuald wrote on November 30, 2022 at 5:54 AM

Don't bother responding, or take the last word if you do, regardless

I don't know where you were during 2020 but I'd bet it was not as a 1st responder, or care-giver or even a F'in prison hack.

2020, pre-vax, was a culling; try to deny it. And even after the vax, it continued; due to folks who didn't see the need to comply w/basic social standards. And to a lesser extent it continues still. All because "muh freedoms" standing atop cardboard boxes filled with quasi-facts.

There are always exceptions based on medical limits. But if its just on principle and one don't want the vax? Fine, don't seek help if you get infected. Don't want to wear a mask indoors when bugs are on the rise? Fine, stay 6' away TF from me; I'll buy you a beer and we can beef on.

Yea, not happy to say it, but your prevailing 'tude is the same as the 2020 version. It got people sick then and can still get people sick now. Their ability to survive notwithstanding.

Yes, I'm antiglobalist; all its done is give the filthy rich more reach to feast off the bone of the poors, somewhere.

AFAIC, CV19 was released with intention; the designs of some folk(s) who want to see a few billion less people walking our planet; and profit off their pains.

It doesn't matter what i feel or think. My words speak for other simple people. Who don't really give AF about the current corrupt system or the show-runners in charge. As it is about keeping myself, those I care about, out of the ER and in decent enough health when 1 bad bill could bankrupt them.

Please stay healthy and uninfected. My well-being may depend on it. If actions, or lack of them, expose risk to those (strangers) w/out their informed consent cuz one's shedding while standing in the checkout line and too close, for instance, then yea, Houston's got a problem.