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appleshit8 t1_j1zhvx9 wrote

I know someone that would just call around to different Hannafords and they would usually set stuff aside for them to take.

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pm_me_ur_cutie_booty t1_j1zhzei wrote

What kind of animals? I know sometimes breweries or distilleries donate spent grain as livestock feed.

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Maineguy1299 OP t1_j1zlhzf wrote

Only illegal if baits being used during the hunting season. Have left the trough all year in the same spot, hunting around it as well. Just never used feed during the season and haven’t had a problem. But I can see where it could be a problem with certain people/game wardens

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Fenn2010 t1_j1zsjna wrote

>But I can see where it could be a problem with certain people/game wardens

Exactly this. This will greatly depend on the warden in your area. Some won't care, others will find a way to make you guilty. Most fall in the middle with the tendancy to consider you guilty until you prove otherwise.

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Maineguy1299 OP t1_j1zus48 wrote

Considering they have no reason to be going into my property, and are not able to see it from public view, they won’t have any reason for bothering me. Not sure why my comments are being downvoted, I assume by someone who doesn’t like hunting but also buys their meat from the grocery stores lol. But where as the baiting isn’t for hunting there’s no laws being broken.

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Fenn2010 t1_j1zvqc8 wrote

I think you are getting downvoted because while you aren't technically breaking any laws, you are in a bit of a grey area. You are certainly attracting them to the same area you intend to hunt. While you may not have any food out during the hunting season, they are still going to go back to your site looking for food since its there the rest of the year. Its not illegal, but its a bit scummy.

That being said, as a fellow and avid hunter, I get where you are coming from. Any advantage, even a tiny one, helps put food in the freezer, and I'd rather eat venison or moose any day than what you get in the stores. But some people don't like thinking about what it takes to do that.

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Maineguy1299 OP t1_j1zxa0q wrote

That’s where you’re wrong though, as a hunter you know deer move around, up to miles at a time during the rut for some mature bucks. Feeding deer during the winter months is just giving them the access to food they otherwise wouldn’t have in the winter months.. where as there were hardly any acorns to begin with this year, and nothing else grows in the winter months to be ate.. and the legal feeding period ends far before we even hunt our property anyway. And where as we only rifle hunt, that pushes the time from feeding and hunting even further apart.. But people will always view it as they please, and they’re welcome to that. Because I frankly I don’t care about anyone else opinions about what I do where as I know I’m within legal rights, and abide by all other game laws. You think as if a bag of grain is going to instantly alert and attract all the deer within a few mile radius to come feed there? Considering it’s the same deer we’ve seen all year on camera, they haven’t quite gotten the word out to all their friends.. when they start lining up I’ll know they got the word out.

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MontEcola t1_j1zzowc wrote

You are being down-voted because ethical hunters do not use food to attract prey. Ethical photographers do not use food to bring in the subjects. They learn the habits of that animal and go 'hunt' them. They find them where they belong and 'capture' them legally.

Ethical neighbors do not put out food to attract unwanted critter. What damage do those animals do getting to and from your property?

Its one thing for a wildlife management program to put out food to support animals during a weather event. Putting out extra food to get more animals in a particular area is called bait. That is unethical and illegal.

I down-voted over the ethics of it.

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Fenn2010 t1_j1zztd3 wrote

You are completely right, though I will say deer in different parts of the state seem to behave a bit differently. I've hunted in the western mountains where yes, deer absolutely travel for miles almost constantly. Its incredibly rare to see the same deer in the same area because they are always on the move for food.

I also hunt in the north-central part of the state, surrounded by farmlands. Those deer do not travel nearly as much because food is readily available in the numerous corn and potato fields. I've had the same set of deer hanging around my property for about the last year or so. I have a large corn field adjacent to my property and just up the road from that are potato fields. I catch them on my camera all the time, and the doe is very recognizable as she has a certain pattern of white fur above her nose. Maybe its because she also has 2 young ones with her and they haven't detached yet, but their behavior when food is readily available does seem to change when compared to more sparse areas of food in the mountains.

Of course once snow is on the ground, all bets are off and you are right. Providing them with food is actually a good thing to keep them healthy. I don't disagree with you, just making (maybe poor) assumptions on how people (non-hunters) view food plots in general.

Still, we live in a state with some very contrasting views on hunting. Many implants to the state disapprove and would prefer to make our state an untouched wilderneess while failing to understand how much researsearch goes into maintaining the populations of animals like deer and moose throughout the state. If left alone, the populations would get out of hand and cause far more problems than good. If over hunted, we'll lose out on a wonderful tradition here.

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Maineguy1299 OP t1_j200u8m wrote

Ah yes the “unethical hunter” comment. Shows how uninformed, or incapable of reading you are. Because giving deer food to survive the winter is so unethical? And no one is preying over the food, as noted already. Feeding deer in the winter months is exactly what you mentioned, the wildlife management department sanctions the dates of when feeding is allowed, and that’s been followed and abided by. Goes to show you’re just incompetent and incapable of reading, and enjoy jumping to conclusions👍🏼

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Maineguy1299 OP t1_j201whl wrote

Unfortunately haven’t ventured into the mountains too much for hunting, but will have to at some point, where as I’ve seen some beautiful deer dragged out of some beautiful mountains. Have a camp in central part of the state but don’t frequent it enough to be able to notice feeding patterns and what not. Most of my hunting is in the southern part of the state, not much farm land around my property, and acorn count was way down this year so food is scarce already. Thank you for understanding and being level headed with me. I understand the very many different viewpoints of people we have here and the dangers of over killing and under killing the population, I just wish everyone was able to realize the game wardens and biologist know what they’re implementing.

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ZingZongZaddy t1_j20d59v wrote

If you're going to use shady tactics to increase your chances of bagging a dear you can at least pay for it out of your own pocket instead of asking for handouts.

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Maineguy1299 OP t1_j20qiix wrote

“Shady tactics” tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me. Nothing shady about feeding deer during the winter months when there’s no other food available for them. And it’s completely legal, so not sure what your problem is?

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Silent_Can_1647 t1_j20r5rx wrote

Does your family eat apples I think that's the scumiest thing I have read on ithis in a long time

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Silent_Can_1647 t1_j20ras5 wrote

Obviously not from Maine what a scumbag thing to a** Hey shut your mother eat cashews

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Silent_Can_1647 t1_j20rii0 wrote

You're obviously not from Maine I think you should pack up and just leave

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Silent_Can_1647 t1_j20rlxw wrote

Maine doesn't need people like you please pack up and leave

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Maineguy1299 OP t1_j20ssbz wrote

So they get “big” lol. More like so they have the needed nutrients to survive the long cold winter… but think as you please. And negative, our freezers are full of wild game meat, and that’s the meat we eat. Not your force bred and farm grown beef.

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Maineguy1299 OP t1_j20taab wrote

Did not realize that considering I’ve just been getting attacked by everyone who has no idea what they’re talking about. So i apologize if I came on the attack lol. Only one other like minded person has responded besides you, and it took a couple replies to get level with them lol

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Tacticalaxel t1_j20unvi wrote

Yes. Like feeding them kitchen scraps, potatoes, cabbage and lettuce trimmings. High sugar feed, like apples, should be introduced no later then early December, and you should be prepared to feed through February, and expect more deer in February than December. What is recommended is a complete dairy or deer feed in pelltized form. Everything you're looking to do is the improper way to do it.

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Tacticalaxel t1_j211duo wrote

Neither did I. You're here asking for apples and waste produce. I don't have a degree in Environmental science, but I can read the " Winter feeding of deer: What you need to know" pamphlet from MEIF&W.

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gerbiju420 t1_j212t0u wrote

don’t feed wildlife. Full stop. Just don’t. Creates more problems than it solves. And second, speaking as a farmer we take a lot of seconds grain from breweries to feed livestock and it cuts our feed bill down by almost half in the winter. Without that brewers mash we probably couldn’t afford to feed our animals. Please leave that stuff for the farmers so that they can continue to raise good quality, healthy food in our state.

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Tacticalaxel t1_j213x40 wrote

God damn you're a dense motherfucker ain't you. What's got you so triggered that you can't handle any disagreement. Keep moving those fucking goalpost, eventually you'll wear people down and they'll stop responding to you and you'll "win" the argument.

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FrenchToaststrea t1_j21dbmy wrote

Right cause the food plot I plant is for me… it’s to attract wildlife. So they survive the winters. So they have a reliable food source. So they can reproduce in an environment that’s safe cause I don’t have predators. Most of you northerners don’t know much about land management outside of forestry.

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Takyr1010 t1_j21k8hg wrote

I’m assuming all these people that are against you feeding animals during the winter are from southern Maine or Bangor.

I say keep on keeping on, just don’t feed corn as they get 0 nutrients from corn. Also just keep in mind you can’t stop feeding them midway through the winter. It’s only illegal and scummy to feed deer during October/November since it’s hunting season.

Good luck

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