kmkmrod t1_j1xxhwl wrote
Reply to comment by otakugrey in Newcomers to New Hampshire and Maine continue to drive population growth: More people are dying than being born, so population growth depends on people moving in from elsewhere by TurretLauncher
So Maine needs people to move to Maine as long as more people do not move to maine. Gotcha. 🤙
otakugrey t1_j1xyatx wrote
Yeah lmao. It's a crapshot problem.
But what NEED is there for even more people to come here? Where does this idea come from? We're all barely making due as is, everythings fucked with our situations here. I don't know who is going around saying we need more people to come here. So we can all suffer together? lol
Ideally they'd give support to couples that already here so that they could actually have kids. Like Hungary does. But don't suggest it because the usual's would say "nooo that's socialism!"
kmkmrod t1_j1y03gm wrote
> what NEED is there for even more people to come here?
Tax revenue for the towns, cities, and state.
> We're all barely making due as is, everythings fucked with our situations here. I don't know who is going around saying we need more people to come here. So we can all suffer together?
Fewer people means more tax money from each household.
BloobityBloobity t1_j1z45es wrote
> Fewer people means more tax money from each household.
Well ... Taxes might rise more slowly with more people, but your taxes most certainly won't go down in any scenario. No matter how many people move in.
lucidlilacdream t1_j1yvkdg wrote
Well, there is actually a need for people to fill healthcare roles with the aging population. Unless people just want to sit in their own shit once they can’t care for themselves.
gingerbreadguy t1_j1z5zhb wrote
Yes. Families with young children getting the support they need, whether those families are from here or from away would really help. Families decide whether to have kids and how many based on financial reasons.
SeelieForest t1_j1z4vka wrote
People moving to Maine bring money if they are remote workers...
When I got to my rural property, I instantly hired the contractors a mile down the road. And now plan to hire them more over the winter and next year.
Also bought a bunch of lumber from the local mill.... and eat at the local grocery store every day.
And that isn't even starting to talk about taxes.
People coming with good jobs already raise the tide for everyone around them.
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SeelieForest t1_j20y3ot wrote
The plot of land I purchased had never been touched for 100+ years (actually longer, no one has ever built there).
Who is being displaced?
But if you are talking about people coming in and purchasing a house or something. Then, again, who is being displaced? The people selling their home? I'm pretty sure that was the sellers idea....
It's crazy to me that some people think land in their hometown or wherever needs to be set aside for 10...20...30 years while they save up and MAYBE some day decide or get into a position where they want to maybe purchase it.
If you want the land, go buy it. There is a ton of pretty cheap rural land all in Maine.
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SeelieForest t1_j211x9t wrote
>The people who could no longer afford their rent
This isn't caused by people buying houses to live in. This is caused by predatory rental market and the "landlord industry". Or all the boomers who buy 4 or 5 or 6 houses to rent out for extra income.
YOU are refusing to look at the bigger picture and just trying to lash out at anyone and everyone who is trying to live their lives. Instead of these large private equity firms coming in from out of state and trying to squeeze you for everything they can.
So you turn on your neighbors living their lives instead of the actual people fucking you over.
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SeelieForest t1_j21afb6 wrote
Lol which mirror again? You are trying to blame people buying houses to live in for a housing crisis caused by private equity and people buying many houses as income streams.
You are like a stupid animal lashing out at anything nearby. Turning on your own community out of stupidity instead of saving your anger for those actually causing your problems.
Next you will be rabidly shouting at people coming out of the grocery store while you continue your derangement.
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SeelieForest t1_j21d1uc wrote
You are being extremely disingenuous. You didn't just "bring up an issue". You insinuated I was ignoring that issue because I was talking about remote workers coming to get a place to live.
And then I was using MYSELF AS AN EXAMPLE, and how I came here and just started pumping money into my local community.... while buying an unused plot of land that no one has touched.
But you are trying to pretend like THAT is a problem? Fuck you buddy, fuck you.
And, AGAIN, people coming to live in a community are NOT why housing and rental prices are insane.
It's instead the use of housing as a financial vehicle. People buying MANY HOUSES and private equity firms buying up huge amounts of housing.
If tomorrow a law was passed that you could only own 1 home that was the one you lived in, then the housing market would CRASH overnight. Because people who live in their homes in a community IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
Again, you are trying to attack people for living their lives and turning on your neighbor instead of thinking for even one moment and attempting to understand the situation.
You are a disingenuous asshole who just wants to fling shit around at innocent people trying to live their lives.
ZingZongZaddy t1_j21dkkd wrote
>Which, AGAIN, has nothing to do with housing and rental prices. People coming to live in a community are NOT why housing and rental prices are insane.
It absolutely is connected. You keep trying to reduce the entire problem down to single factor and it's more complicated than that. It was a confluence of events that you were absolutely a part of. But being part of that doesn't make you the problem. Stop being so goddamned defensive.
The only person attacking anyone here is you.
SeelieForest t1_j21ej7j wrote
>It absolutely is connected.
You are a lunatic. It isn't "connected". Who the fuck is going to be living in an undeveloped forest? Who am I displacing? Absolutely no one, you raving idiot.
About 20% of houses in Maine are registered as vacation homes. MAYBE THAT IS A START OF WHERE THE HOUSING HAS GONE.
Not to mention rich people with so much money the only thing they can think to do with it is buy a 3rd or 4th or 5th house to rent out "for passive income".
You are trying to pretend someone buying an untouched piece of forest in the middle of rural Maine "is part of the problem"? Again, fuck you. All you want to do is sling bullshit around.
ZingZongZaddy t1_j21fkxm wrote
Nothing exists in a vacuum.
Once again, the only person slinging shit is you.
Calm down, honey. You seem personally aggrieved that some people have differing opinions than you. The only reason you were inserted into this narrative was because you made it about you.
YOU DID A THING MOST PEOPLE IN THE SAME SITUATION WOULD DO. THAT ITSELF NOT A PROBLEM.
I didn't refute your claims against landlord culture. Those are 100% a problem. I didn't call you a stupid asshole like you have repeatedly. Stop acting like you're being labeled a pariah.
SeelieForest t1_j21g1bb wrote
Well then little girl, maybe you shouldn't pick fights with random people. Next time think a little before you start spewing your crap around.
ZingZongZaddy t1_j21g97w wrote
Give your balls a tug, big shoots. What a big, strong bad boy on the internet.
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