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freetheroux t1_ja7wygr wrote

I wouldn’t consider it the “right thing” they’re doing the normal thing

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vikingenvy t1_ja81sdd wrote

Don’t try to take over the government by force or say that white people and black people need to be separated. Then I’ll stop equating the right to nazism. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Adventurous_Gap_2092 t1_ja86ci0 wrote

That is sad. It sounds like he drank the Qewelade. I don't know how to help people that get like that. They buy into the propaganda and lose their ever-loving minds. His livelihood is over. That is really hard for an artist. America does not participate in racism or wyt supremacy on paper. He could write a book. I'm sure Florida and Texas would allow it in their curriculum.

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Image-Extension t1_ja86hv7 wrote

The irony of course is that Maine is the embodiment of what he's arguing demographically as the whitest state in the nation.

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Netherthoughts t1_ja87a62 wrote

Freedom of Speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. I'm sure the far-right is already bitching about "Cancel Culture."

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aconsent t1_ja8kwmx wrote

What happened to actually reporting the full context of the story?

Blindly telling people what to think is not journalism, its indoctrination.

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We have had enough of that from the news media over the last few years.

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Armigine t1_ja8nu5i wrote

Not in this context, his comic strip getting pulled from syndication is pretty new afaik. But there have been articles about him being crap for years now, this time he just crossed more lines and people cared more

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FITM-K t1_ja8r76k wrote

What context do you think it's missing? Here's just some of what he said:

> I would say, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from Black people. Just get the fuck away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there’s no fixing this. This can’t be fixed.

>So I don’t think it makes any sense as a white citizen of America to try to help Black citizens anymore. It doesn’t make sense. There’s no longer a rational impulse. So I’m going to back off on being helpful to Black America because it doesn’t seem like it pays off.

All because of the results of a single, small survey. A survey in which most people, including most black people, agreed with the statement that "it's OK to be white."

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bent_peepee t1_ja8rbar wrote

Reddit: Maine’s newspapers are doing the right thing.

Also reddit: I don’t want to pay to read any articles or support journalism so can someone please help me bypass a paywall.

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FITM-K t1_ja8uoju wrote

> You said it yourself 'just some of what he said'. That is actually the defnition of LACK of CONTEXT:

So you would only consider it acceptable reporting if they print the full transcript to that 70+ minute video, and the follow-up? lmao.

There's plenty of context to understand:

  1. What he said
  2. Why he said it

So instead of vaguely demanding more context, why don't you explain to the class specifically what missing context you're talking about?

You know, the "context" that makes it OK to say that white people should "get the fuck away" from black people, and that it's irrational for a white person to try to help a black person?

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FITM-K t1_ja8y7fo wrote

So I actually did watch some of this, and it's mostly complete bullshit.

For example, around ~8:30 he's claiming that most news stories about this didn't list the reason he said those things. Bullshit. The story linked here mentions the reason, and so does every other article I've seen about it. Just for fun, I checked articles from CNN, Reuters, and the Daily Beast – all of them explain why he said it, and that he was responding to that Rasmussen poll, what the poll said, etc.

~13:30 - now he's talking about the economics of cartooning, fucking kill me

16:50 - here's the part where he intimates that any black people who are mad at him are mad because they hate white people, not because of what he said. "You can tell by the comments," he chuckles, offering zero evidence or support for that statement.

17:45 OK, so here he seems to be trying to argue that what he said is just "don't hang out with people who don't like you," and that because people don't disagree with that general idea, that means nobody actually disagrees with what he said, just with "the way he said it". But that's not what he said at all. He's saying white people shouldn't be near black people because – per this poll – a small percentage of black people think it's "not ok to be white." He's not saying stay away from those people, he's saying stay away from ALL black people.

21:00 and now we're at the classic right-winger thing where they pretend EVERYONE agrees with them, but just secretly, because they're too afraid to say it. The fact that almost no one actually agrees doesn't matter because they're "NPCs".

Throwing in the towel around 25 minutes because that's as much of this prick as I can stomach, even at 2x speed. I saw absolutely nothing that explains or justifies what he said.

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Guygan t1_ja922qm wrote

His own distributor/agent also dropped him.

He’s a piece of shit.

And of course Musk is defending him.

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aconsent t1_ja93ogp wrote

So you are yourself admitting that you don't care enough about context to actually watch a video (crikey!). A perfect example of the typical lazy keyboard warrior who wants to be told what to think. Thus you are falling in line with the woke mob because 'pOpUlAr'.

With regard to your other so-called 'sources' - all of which are perfectly aligned with if not the leaders of your woke mob, please do us all a favor and tune in to a source that disagrees with them if you are too lazy to do the work yourself.

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aconsent t1_ja9443r wrote

You probably still refuse to believe that the source of Covid has now been found to be the Wuhan Institute of Virology - whether a leak or intentional.

Sorry to inform you 2.5 years later that all of the so-called facts on which your opinions were based for all of this time are now debunked, completely.

Clearly we know who the NPCs are.

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FITM-K t1_ja98zbw wrote

lmao, I love the WILD swing to a completely unrelated topic because you didn't expect anyone to call your bullshit and actually watch that fucking drivel.

> Clearly we know who the NPCs are.

NPCs are non-player characters in a video game. In my experience, people who apply that term to other humans tend to have the IQ of a turnip. It's a coping mechanism, convincing yourself that anyone who disagrees with you just isn't a person, and it is truly pathetic.

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FITM-K t1_ja99pl4 wrote

> So you are yourself admitting that you don't care enough about context to actually watch a video (crikey!).

I did watch ~25 minutes of the video. Crikey! Try reading the comments you reply to?

> A perfect example of the typical lazy keyboard warrior who wants to be told what to think.

Like I said, I watched the video. 25 minutes of unfiltered Scott Adams explaining things in his own words did absolutely nothing to change my opinion. The fact that I watched it and still don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm being "told what to think," it means that I don't agree with you.

Believe or not, different people can have different opinions!

> With regard to your other so-called 'sources' - all of which are perfectly aligned with if not the leaders of your woke mob, please do us all a favor and tune in to a source that disagrees with them if you are too lazy to do the work yourself.

Yeah I fucking did, I watched a bunch of the video YOU recommended. It sucked.

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TheRogIsHere t1_ja9cayo wrote

HA! I thought the same thing. "Look at this terrific example of morality by these wonderful newspapers! BRAVO!"

(2 secs later...)

"Hey, can someone help me cheat and see this for free, even though these wonderful newspapers are dying? I can't subscribe for $0.20/day."

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aconsent t1_ja9fide wrote

Sad because what you have said is 'the disagreement' is taken OUT OF CONTEXT so that your shallow intellect can be exploited by the media in the same way that they exploited you into believing for 2.5 years that Covid was a naturally occurring bat virus. Just another example of many that definitively show us how we have been deceived. I sent you the links to help educate yourself but you are too lazy to watch the whole video in order to understand that if you were not some rabid woke creature you would see is entirely truthful and reasonable.

Get yourself some help. If you get the chance read Platos 'Allegory of the Cave' & try to comprehend it.

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cepheus42 t1_ja9tom8 wrote

Of course it's rigged. It's rigged by the wealthy, who are by nature conservative and ensure the laws benefit them and fuck everyone else over. It's rigged by corporations who privatize their profits for shareholders while they socialize any losses they have. It's rigged in a myriad of ways, none of which are caused by leftists, minorities, socialists, communists, or any of the many other -ists that have never held any real power in this country, and when they tried they were ostracized, investigated, banned, jailed, or murdered. Their leaders are later white washed down to the most banal utterances ("I have a dream") while the real radical views are forgotten completely ("Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children.").

You're welcome to join us in our endless struggles to ensure equality and justice for all, and reparations for the harms caused by colonization, exploitation, privatization and endless amounts of lying bullshit labeled as misinformation. To build a better society. Or you can just sit there and claim "both sides" if you prefer while shit keeps swirling around the drain.

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cepheus42 t1_ja9v3i8 wrote

Aren't you the same guy not reporting the "full context" of the Wuhan lab story that just came out? You know, the context where one agency said "based on our knowledge of how labs work, without actually visiting the Wuhan lab, we believe it's this," and how EVERY OTHER AGENCY read their report and said "No, that's incorrect," and how everyone is listing it as "low confidence." There's only three confidence levels for these types of reports: High, Medium, and Low.

High = Yep, the evidence is pretty clear and the conclusions are reasonable. We all agree on this. (Russia is planning to invade Ukraine, reports say, with high confidence levels, and that proved true)

Medium = There's some evidence, but also a lot of holes, and the evidence could be read other ways. Still, it seems pretty possible (Iraq war... which, as we now know, turned out to be FALSE, so even MEDIUM levels aren't necessarily truths)

Low = I mean, sure... it's plausible. Unlikely, you've not actually proven it, but it might have happened that way. You need to provide some actual, you know... evidence of what you're saying. Beyond just "trust us, we work in a lab environment, too, so we totally can guess." (This report)

If you're going to lean on the "we don't have the full context" of a video for which many people have SEEN the full context in all it's long winded, racist glory, you better make sure to provide full context for the stories you do cherry pick from.

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Solar_Saves t1_jaaoeik wrote

He apparently forgot that with great power (of readership) comes great responsibility…

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Sourdieselmang t1_jacw89v wrote

Lol. He said “if 50% of black people think whites shouldn’t exist (according to the poll), then white people should probably stay away from them.”

How is he wrong? Should black people be forced to live in communities where 50% are white supremacists?

I’ve yet to see anyone disprove this logic and I fucking HATE boomer cartoon man, for the record. Most of you don’t even know what he said, you just see an easy virtue signal.

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Sourdieselmang t1_jacwngw wrote

The sooner newspapers die and what you consider to be “journalists” are all out of work then we can sooner get back to being a proper country. These same “journalists” lied to you about Covid for three years. Trump (who I did not vote for) was right when he said the press is the enemy of the people. The journalists you pretend to celebrate are in the tank for Pfizer and have nothing but disdain for you.

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Sourdieselmang t1_jad0c9g wrote

Since you don’t have the capacity to google “ngmi” I don’t have any hope that you’re gmi anyway. You are genuinely low IQ. But there are plenty of trustworthy journalists out there, they just don’t work for newspapers or cable, who are beholden to their corporate advertisers and are incentivized to lie to you.

Turn off your TV.

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FlockOfSeadoos t1_jad4i53 wrote

Newspapers are dying because they adhere to a single perspective. Before you jump up and down and scream something about me being a “Fawx News” acolyte, let me tell you that all I want is non-agenda-driven reporting. I want the truth. And I want to be able to make my own decisions on how that truth affects me and my family. Local news outlets could rebound incredibly easily - perhaps not as print media, but certainly as localized online sources of daily information, if only they would report factually and without horrifically lopsided political perspectives. Advertisers are very simple to figure out; they go where the eyeballs are. And eyeballs leave when they are able to, in every instance, know what will be covered and how it will be covered.

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TheRogIsHere t1_jad5oav wrote

I don't care if newspapers die.

I was poking fun at the hypocrisy of many people who, in one instance, applaud a newspaper for doing the "right thing" and cheering them on. But on the other hand, won't do anything to support those papers and reward them for upholding what is right.

Factual reporting is over on a macro level.

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Sourdieselmang t1_jad5wjz wrote

What a piss poor obfuscation. He was citing a poll in which 50% of black people think it’s “not okay” to be white. Why wouldn’t you avoid these people at all costs? Should black people not avoid communities of 50% white supremacists?You are willfully misrepresenting his point bc you know he’s right. Can you address either of those points? You can’t and you won’t, because there’s no logical argument to be made in favor.

Fuck I can’t believe low IQ morons are making me defend boomer cartoon man.

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No_Act_920 t1_jadi3qk wrote

You again cite the source as evidence. That’s bias.

Trump defending Trump proves nothing. Same for Biden defending Biden etc etc etc.

If you’ve ever written anything that requires a cited source you should know that you cannot cite yourself as the source - for the excellent reason that you may be biased in favor of yourself. As Scott Adams is.

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Sourdieselmang t1_jadj267 wrote

Lol. You can’t even cite his claim, you’re just compelled to condemn it bc the TV told you to. Basically just a virtue signal. You don’t even know what his claim is, you’re just told “cartoon man bad now bc racism” and you uncritically accept it. Low IQ behavior.

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TabbyCat421 t1_jadl2p4 wrote

Lol you’re on Reddit bro the average user here is on three SSRIs, hormone therapy, and has an IQ of 56. But that’s beside the point.

Why can’t you address his point? He’s citing a poll that says 52% of black people think you shouldn’t exist. Why shouldn’t you avoid these people at all costs?

Should black people be forced to interact with communities of 50% white supremacists?

Critical thinking is hard. This is just a virtue signaling circle jerk. You can’t even cite what the man actually said but the TV said “condemn” and you dutifully obeyed. Adorable.

And btw I hate Scott Adams bc he shilled for the vax. Are you up to date on your boosters? May wanna get on that. Should be fine,

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TabbyCat421 t1_jado2wf wrote

That’s exactly what you are doing by not addressing any of his points. You have no argument, just a desire to signal that you’re one of the “good white people”. Got news for ya: 52% of black people still think you’re evil and shouldn’t exist. If you were intellectually honest, you’d address that, like he did.

You haven’t stated a single fact or even an opinion. So yeah, you’re just engaging in empty virtue signaling. Give me actual facts or opinions about what he said (you didn’t even listen to it), and then we can have a discussion.

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TabbyCat421 t1_jadpf8p wrote

Lolol. You don’t understand sea lioning either so I don’t expect you to understand much. Especially racism.

“If 52% of a group of people think you shouldn’t exist then you should probably avoid that group.”

That’s the point you’re pretending to oppose. And you’re doing a horrible job at it.

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TabbyCat421 t1_jadq2ze wrote

Or you could actually, you know, watch the video and see what he said in his own words, but that would force you to do some actual thinking and analysis so why would you. It’s so much easier to grab a pitchfork like everyone else.

Again I ask, why is it your opinion that black people should be forced to cohabitate with a community of 50% white supremacists?

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TabbyCat421 t1_jadsmpc wrote

Lol. You are obviously used to losing.

And goats are fucking awesome bro. Imagine pointing out goat ownership as though it were an insult.

“Go enjoy your property and livestock.” Okay, I will.

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theora55 t1_jadsryf wrote

I watched the video.

"It's okay to be white" has been embraced by White Supremacists. It was a loaded question and not a useful poll.

Ad Fontes Media rates Rasmussen Reports in the Skews Right category of bias and as Reliable, Analysis/Fact Reporting in terms of reliability.

A poll asked if it’s ‘OK to be white.’ Here’s why the phrase is loaded.

Adams used a biased, dog-whistle phrase to make racist statements. I hope more people will respond, in case you actually want to learn how not to be racist, but I'm so tired of this.

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theora55 t1_jadt50h wrote

52% of Black people recognized it as a racist dog whistle. Or are pissed off at a lifetime of discrimination, or whatever. Ask a tainted question, you don't get reliable data.

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Sourdieselmang t1_jadthye wrote

“If 50% of a group of people think you shouldn’t exist, then you should probably avoid that group of people”

Weird that you’d take issue with that point. And I LOVE the notion of black people not understanding the question as you claim, or “it being loaded”. Ahh yes, they didn’t mean the thing they actually said. Got it.

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TabbyCat421 t1_jadu58a wrote

“Don’t listen to their actual words, allow me, a white woman, to speak for them”.

Okay white savior, I know exactly who the racist is here and it’s the person who doesn’t expect black people to answer a question honestly.

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TabbyCat421 t1_jadue3n wrote

Yes. Now tell me more about how you think black peoples lack the agency to answer a question honestly. Next you’ll tell me they’re too simple minded to obtain a driver’s license.

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aconsent t1_jadwa14 wrote

When someone gets cancelled for having spoken the truth there is no other source to be referenced other than what that person actually said.

You cannot cite a biased so-called news outlet and allow them to assign to you whatever conclusions they are telling you to have. Dont be a bot.

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Netherthoughts t1_jaejpgt wrote

Here is where he ridiculous misrepresents the data to further his personal bias (let's forget this is a poll of 1,000 people -- a terribly inadequate amount for any conclusion). Cited from the Boston Herald:

"He (Adams) said it revealed that 26% of Black respondents said it’s 'not OK to be White' and 21% said 'they weren’t sure.' With a degree of amazement, Adams said: “That’s 47% of Blacks not willing to say it’s OK to be White."

The 21% "not sure" are not the "not OK" group. He lumped them together because he has his own fears and biases. His claim can't even be supported by a pretty lousy survey that he himself is citing, because he misrepresents the meager data.

"Racism" is a label for a larger problem. It's the reliance on stereotypes that reveals "Low IQ behavior." Believe it or not, not all Black people are the same, as not all White people are the same. Scott Adams reveals that he has a rather small mind when it comes to the world at large and he's getting called out for it.

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No_Act_920 t1_jaewf4g wrote

Well…. You cancelled me for speaking the truth. I defended myself so you now believe me right? Because I’m the best most reliable unbiased source about me!

Yay! I convinced you!

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