Submitted by Scamhunter5171 t3_11dzbv2 in Maine

I already know most of those reading this will probably say you either don't answer calls from numbers they don't recognize, or you just hang up on robocallers. I used to do that, too. Those who do that can pass this post up, and thanks for reading this far. But I'm trying to get an idea of how many Mainers might have actually sent a contribution to something like the "National Committee for Volunteer Firefighters PAC," or the "National Breast Cancer Relief Committee PAC."
The reason I ask is that I don't think either of those organizations--or some others that solicit donations via robocalls--are really a PAC. The Artificial Intelligence (AI; actually probably a soundboard operated by a human drone somewhere, maybe even in another country) will be quick to say they're not a charity, as that could trigger deeper scrutiny into their fundraising.
This is from the Political Committee and Lobbyist Registrar at the Maine Ethics Commission: "Organizations are required to register as PACs in Maine once they raise or spend more than $2,500 to influence candidate elections in the State." Neither of the above organizations has registered with the Ethics Commission, but I'm not sure yet how to figure out if they've hit the $2,500 threshold. I'd be willing to bet they haven't spent anywhere near that amount on any election in Maine or any other state, so the big question is how much they might have raised in Maine. Their required financial disclosures show that more than 90% of the funds they raise goes to "overhead" and "advertising." They might take in more than a million buck$ annually, most if not all of it from small donations ($35 or less; somebody somewhere is donating), but very little seems to go to their stated causes. (The Daily Beast and OpenSecrets[dot]org have done deep dives into their financial filings, as has William P. Barrett, a financial analyst who writes a blog called New to Las Vegas.)
Full disclosure: I think if it could be proven that they're not really a PAC, then any federal tax exemptions they have should disappear, and any exceptions they have under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act for making robocalls should go away, too. I don't think anyone has (to date) successfully sued a "PAC" for making robocalls, but I might like to try it.
More disclosure: I am not a lawyer, so anything above that might look lawyerly is not. It's just my personal opinion, and during my Air Force days, I learned a rather colorful saying about opinions. I am a former volunteer firefighter, from back around 1969. And finally, I dislike scammers of any kind.
If you've read this far, thanks. Anyone who has made a donation to either of those "PACs" can PM me.
Stay warm and well, all.

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Scamhunter5171 OP t1_jae3l2l wrote

That name was familiar. but I had to look him up to be sure. I seldom go to Portland.

One of the three that I've gotten letters from (all in a very distinctive style of window envelope), I never talked to on the phone. Another "cancer committee" that I hadn't heard of before sent something to the same fake name I gave the "volunteer firefighters PAC." All three use p.o. boxes in Waukesha, WI, or a nearby town. I figure it would take someone about an hour to make a round trip from whichever town they're based in, and pick up whatever might be in all three boxes.

I always tell the AI that I "don't do plastic," and they're happy to send out a donation letter so I can mail them a check. I hope they're not holding their breath while they wait for my check to arrive.

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Taboo_Activity_71 t1_jae4anc wrote

He's the former mayor turned DSA leader. I'm calling it out because he acts like he's an agent of change and against the establishment, but his whole career is politics. He did a push poll last summer trying to get people to ask Troy Jackson to run. Troy wasn't happy because he literally never wanted to run, but somehow Ethan made money off it or got lists of people.

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Existing_Bat1939 t1_jaee6wd wrote

I listened all the way through once, and I believe at least one of those PACs was designed to support certain state legislative candidates in Florida. It might be an interesting project to actually track them down.

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