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mymaineaccount46 t1_j8adiw4 wrote

Reply to comment by TarantinoFan23 in Ohio death cloud coming here? by TarantinoFan23

Like for heat or used motor oil?

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TarantinoFan23 OP t1_j8anh0h wrote

Either one. No one would ban anything. Nobody cares abd some people even like to pollute and destroy the environment

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mymaineaccount46 t1_j8blce8 wrote

I mean there's a very good reason to not ban heating oil...

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TarantinoFan23 OP t1_j8bot3k wrote

Don't say heat.

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mymaineaccount46 t1_j8c0y30 wrote

Heat is the reason. Loads of people aren't going to be able to afford changing their heat source if their current one is banned.

Just banning things has serious consequences when people depend on those things to live.

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TarantinoFan23 OP t1_j8c4ekx wrote

There's a lot of serious shit we definitely should ban, though

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Toibreaker t1_j8csrmk wrote

Petroleum products isn’t one of those, yet. Electrical infrastructure isn’t economically capable of replacing oil for heat or the internal combustion engine for transportation and shipment of goods. Once you understand that Nuclear power is the best zero carbon power generation option, we can build more power plants to feed the grid and take all the Gas and coal plants offline, and have carbon free electricity.

solar takes a huge ground footprint (beyond the natural resources and supply chain issues to manufacture), wind is not reliable (also takes huge amounts of natural resources to create, as well as the tons of non recyclable plastics used in them) and hydro does not have the capacity to fill our growing needs.

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TarantinoFan23 OP t1_j8dda3k wrote

Solar doesnt put a huge blanket of poison in the environment. Oil does. We need to grow trees and shink consumption.

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Toibreaker t1_j8dkpt9 wrote

Actually it does, the equipment used to mine the minerals necessary to manufacture industrial sized panels burn on average 1800 gallons of diesel an hour, EACH. Then there are the plastics used in those same panels, made out of oil/petroleum, then there is the thousands of acres of woodlands that will be cut down to create a solar “farm” Add into all of that the electricity used to manufacture everything and that’s even more fossil fuels that are burnt. So yes solar power does burn fossil fuels and contributes to the exact pollution you’re talking about. When green or alternative energy sources are readily available and economical to replace fossil fuels or should we ever actually reach the point where cold fusion is possible than absolutely replace fossil fuels but right now fossil fuels are the cheapest and best method to power our electrical grid and daily lives.

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