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Charlotttes t1_iu2k685 wrote

i guess thats not a complete surprise considering keyboards and crypto stuff potentially have a common audience in "tech people" but that sure sucks regardless

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Charlotttes t1_iu36rre wrote

Replying to Monkey0ps (#276,784)

im speaking as an artist here: absolutely not. there's nothing that NFTs and/or crypto broadly can do for art ecosystems that can't already be done with traditional systems. add onto that:

  • they look like that
  • the fact that buyers aren't buying the art, they're buying the asset that happens to be bundled to the art
  • the fact that the token is merely a link to the image, hosted elsewhere, which means that the image tied to the token can be changed or disappear
  • every little transaction costs money, to the point that if you're small time you probably won't break even after gas costs (that's what they're called, right)
  • the ability for future buyers of the token to sidestep the residuals, which is one of the things that this system is advertised as giving you
  • this is obvious but theres also the absurd environmental cost of transactions
  • and then there's their insanely bad reputation, which is fucking poison to your personal brand

and there are definitely additional, more minute problems. its just not worth the trouble when paypal, patreon, ko-fi, and whatever else work well enough, and they work with real money

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krugerlive t1_iu39j41 wrote

If it brings more people into the hobby I’m all for it.

Edit: lol, ok gatekeepers. NFTs are stupid but so is the reaction to the existence of this board on this post.

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RelativeChance t1_iu39sk7 wrote

Replying to wolfenstein734 (#277,720)

Check out what I found, if you just search for the symbol * on their store it will list everything and you can also see that there is a second bundle for $337 and an artisan keycap collab in the CAPS/KATE profile for $42

Also they have the password thing on products they are still working on all the time I think it is just a shopify thing. They also use password products to release things early to people who sign up for the mailing list.

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well-behaved-user t1_iu3c4d7 wrote

Nft's and r/mechanicalkeyboards lol, if that would ever actually become a thing I will be the first to leave this consumerist hellhole

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ponzupapi t1_iu3c4x5 wrote

looks like an NFT already lol

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BitIndividual1510 t1_iu3dg3q wrote

Sounds like the kind of dumbass bullshit Rama would do.

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Str8G4Lyfe t1_iu3gyfb wrote

This may have made sense 1-2 years ago. Not that NFTs weren't bullshit back then, people just hadn't realised it yet. Now it's just extremely embarrasing.

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Sejhaj t1_iu3vc09 wrote

Replying to RelativeChance (#278,860)

As well as another Kara gb. To be fair this collab was probably produced alongside the seq 2 gb but I still think it is a shitty signal to send to the people who support your business.

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Huffer13 t1_iu3wgbd wrote

Replying to Str8G4Lyfe (#278,734)

Nfts never made sense at all. All fake money, all based on other people's speculation of what constitutes "value" never actually based on the real world of economic scarcity and usefulness.

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DrLatency t1_iu3x0s9 wrote

Replying to Charlotttes (#274,011)

Custom keeb is pretty strong on FOMO cuz the limited nature of GBs, which is kinda what drives NFTs, but I feel like most keeb people won't give a shit cuz you can't type on a NFT keeb or put your fancy hand-lubed hifi switches on it, except maybe for some fast fashion dudes who buy and trade keebs as they would with limited shoes/clothes, etc etc.

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TaxSpecific1697 t1_iu41j6d wrote

Kara in these days is such a week choice, very thin sound and weak typing feels

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Jade_Zen t1_iu41s6b wrote

Kara for over 200? Pass

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Biotrin t1_iu45wrv wrote

Rama deciding to go even more downhill.

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ConcreteSnake t1_iu483sh wrote

Man Rama has gone downhill after the “split”

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realuduakobong t1_iu48okt wrote

Replying to Huffer13 (#280,802)

Everyone was saying the same thing about cosmetic/collectable items when they made their appearance in online games, but they seem to be still kicking around. Digital scarcity is a real thing, and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

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a_saker t1_iu4awm2 wrote

Oh, how the mighty continue to fall

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bkrluffy t1_iu4c679 wrote

F this preorder bullshit in the industry

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wolfenstein734 OP t1_iu4caq2 wrote

Replying to Sejhaj (#280,626)

Maybe this is why the Kara fulfillment is taking so long. Also it’s gonna take at least another year for him to get the key cap molds correct. I wonder why people still buy stuff from this guy.

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Huffer13 t1_iu4f5yq wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#282,748)

Actually no. The technology is the hardware and infrastructure that is used to store the software or digital asset. The software could be described as the techniques to write a letter, whereas the value is in the infrastructure that holds the content or the NFT. An NFT is worthless if you do not have the technology that can display it or store it.

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Huffer13 t1_iu4fj7r wrote

Replying to realuduakobong (#283,128)

Digital scarcity only matters within the context of the wider community. A limited edition digital charm or cosmetic pack means nothing if your electrical grid or water supply goes out.

Also, that digital token means nothing to anyone who doesn't care about that context. Ever tried describing why an $600 keyboard is better than a $100 barebones kit? The non community people won't get it and won't care if it doesn't affect them.

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Sejhaj t1_iu4g7q4 wrote

Replying to wolfenstein734 (#283,933)

Supposedly case production is completed and it is the new meme-cut pcbs that is taking time being produced. If I were to guess why fulfillment is taking so long, I would say RAMA is too busy doing anything else than actually putting the required time and effort into planning GB timelines and production, sadly.

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But yeah, as someone who joined the Kare seq 2 groupbuy I regulairly feel worse with my purchase. Partially because the lower end keyboard market is way different than it was summer '21 and partilly because RAMA seems to have zero cares to give towards the community as long as he is making money off of them.

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Latias10point0 t1_iu4izpy wrote

Buy it, you can pay for his vacations and maybe get a board in a few years once he digs into the trust to pay for it. Combined with NFTs will only add stability and speed up the pace

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VAWLTGHOST t1_iu4jciw wrote

A handful of people have mentioned Rama going downhill. What's the story behind that? Since I'm relatively new to the hobby I'm not familiar with their history.

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wolfenstein734 OP t1_iu4ka9v wrote

Replying to Sejhaj (#284,757)

Yeah I got into that group buy too and I regret it... I thought it would be a short one like the seq1 was. Even if he had to design a new PCB, it still shouldn't take this long to get everything tested and made.

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RelativeChance t1_iu4mebp wrote

Replying to wolfenstein734 (#285,624)

It's because Kate left Rama, I think they lost their manufacturing contact and they definitely also lost Wilba. She has been fulfilling artisan keycap gbs in like 3 months in comparison. The situation with CAPS is quite unbelievable actually. Rama sold like 10 colorways and is still releasing more colorways without ever even finalizing the mold. Other keycap manufacturers like gmk epbt etc have a working mold they only have a long wait time because there is a long queue of orders. Rama basically took advantage of consumers being used to long wait times to sell a half finished project early. It's a genius business move, where other business would need to take out a loan, he can get all the money from all the sales upfront before making anything, but it leaves the customer with no real guarantee of quality and no eta.

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lumiras__________art t1_iu4mrr8 wrote

I think you vastly underestimate the venn diagram that is "high-end keyboard nerds" and "NFT people"

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BRS_Ignition t1_iu4o6x3 wrote

Replying to VAWLTGHOST (#285,412)

The guy behind RAMA works used to be both a business partner and romantic partner with Katie, the woman who is now behind HIBI.

He's always essentially been more into the flash and marketing of the products RAMA makes than actually creating things on any kind of reasonable timeline, so between all the useless side projects, endless delays, and bragging about being rich on Instagram, things broke down and both Wilba (who designed the PCBs) and Katie (Who did a lot of the board design, I believe?) split off to make HIBI.

There's likely a lot more behind the scenes that went on, but RAMA is essentially a shell of whatever it used to be, and generally isn't super respected in the MK community because of it.

BTW, HIBI has a new board in the works called the Hibiki 65.

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wolfenstein734 OP t1_iu4r1xf wrote

Replying to RelativeChance (#286,031)

Yeah the keycap situation is insane. I thought that they had a working mold before they went and did a keycap groupbuy but I guess I was wrong there too. Seems like things are really going off the rails at Rama works.

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darknessblades t1_iu4tu1t wrote

this is the beginning of the end for rama, once they start with nfts nothing good will come from it

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meowffins t1_iu4uzkq wrote

Replying to realuduakobong (#283,128)

Doesn't mean it's not shit. I won't spend a cent on games using steam marketplace for example.

Terrible user experience. Remember when the game was about the game?

I'm not against cosmetics, I consider that part of the game if it's designed to be in the game. But these big companies only have their sights on how to extract the maximum amount of currency from their userbase. Sometimes this means targeting whales at the expense of everyone else. Or introducing gambling mechanics as the primary method of obtaining anything (such as crates).

No this shit isn't going anywhere. But it's still shit. As an individual, the best I can do is not participate.

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cjamm t1_iu4wp1d wrote

damn, they felled off

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Charlotttes t1_iu4zogm wrote

Replying to nukkawut (#287,937)

I guess? half of the stuff i mentioned is the supposed benefits of ‘buying in’ to the system not working as advertised, and another half (NOT the other half, overlaps a bit with the first half) is a result of NFTs being an attempt to bring the dynamic of buying and selling fine art to a completely digital space. which, to be clear, isn’t the kind of thing that anyone thought was missing from ‘the experience’. its a dynamic that people are pretty happy to be free of

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anvilsp t1_iu590mi wrote

Replying to well-behaved-user (#278,148)

Considering the general techbro mentality, the willingness to forgive and support stolen art (clone keycaps), and the attraction to artificial scarcity and manufactured plastic waste (limited run hype switches that spend their entire life in glass jars)

... it seems a bit more likely than you'd think!

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excusemeprincess t1_iu5at8s wrote

Replying to RelativeChance (#290,874)

Huh I guess I thought those shipped. I remembered the first round went out real quick. Welp nevermind then lol

Edit: lol like it doesn’t matter but why is this being downvoted? Y’all don’t like that I realized I made a mistake? What the fuck?

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RelativeChance t1_iu5bwch wrote

Replying to excusemeprincess (#290,920)

Yeah, the SEQ2 has been in production for over a year I think it's crazy and its an obvious sign that there are huge problems at Rama works. They are not able to fulfill the same boards that they fulfilled before, they must have lost their manufacturer

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Shroune t1_iu5g6sm wrote

Just note that I bought a RAMA KARA SEQ2 in september 2021 and still havn't received it yet. They "expect" to ship them out by the end of Q4, which I seriously doubt I will even receive the keyboard at all at this point.

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