Ctrl-C-C-C-C t1_iu5kqc3 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 6:39 PM

Reply to comment by BitIndividual1510 in Legit GMK Striker R2 (number row) vs clones copped on Amazon by CatboyMac

~~What is poor about the dye-sub? The colour looks way off, sure. I only notice the sides have very, very minor chips from what I could distinguish from the amount of dust on the side of the keycaps.~~

EDIT: Please read the comments below for proper explanation.

BitIndividual1510 t1_iu5kuir wrote on October 28, 2022 at 6:39 PM

I guess you've never seen a reverse dyesub job where the color underneath is coming through because of how thin the reverse dyesub job is, but that is what you are looking at (I have a set next to me with the same issue). It is not dust, but there is also dust on there.

Ctrl-C-C-C-C t1_iu5lsk6 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 6:46 PM

I see. So it’s the lighter shade of blue on the front-side (facing the camera).

BitIndividual1510 t1_iu5m4he wrote on October 28, 2022 at 6:48 PM

Yup. Whole keycap is the legend color, then reverse dyesub dyes the darker color on top of that. When it's cheaply done, the lighter color is visible through it, typically on the sides.

I've got a NicePBT Elderberry set with the same issue (pink color coming through dark purple) though it doesn't look quite this bad.

Ctrl-C-C-C-C t1_iu5mspj wrote on October 28, 2022 at 6:53 PM

That’s why the general rule of thumb is to only purchase lighter colours like white and beige for dye-sub PBT keycaps.

Reverse/5-side dye-sub marketed themselves so well as if it’s the best thing, yet the quality is sub-par most of the time.

Blur_410 t1_iu82dgw wrote on October 29, 2022 at 7:48 AM

And you met the requirements for a redemption arc.

M0ltz t1_iu8t06n wrote on October 29, 2022 at 1:24 PM

Milkyway seems to be the only one who has a handle on it. PBT Atmosphere is flawless, outside of the caps being tight. It's the only reverse dyesub I've seen without issue. Maybe I got lucky, dunno, but all the other manus doing reverse dyesub seem to suffer from uneven dying and sloppy legends that aren't even, especially Kat. Kat Cyberspace is an outright embarrassment, hard to believe Kono is still trying to sell them they are so bad. Then again even Cannonkeys isn't above selling bad sets/boards at full price either, which is why the pre-order model is so ridiculous. The shops are all incentivized to hide imperfections once they get stock in to avoid taking losses when manufactures fuck up. Right above you a guy says NicePBT Elderberry is unacceptable. Cannonkeys still out there slinging em. Quality control? Never fucking heard of it.