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Blur_410 t1_iuco5xr wrote

Reply to comment by Ctrl-C-C-C-C in Legit GMK Striker R2 (number row) vs clones copped on Amazon by CatboyMac

The people who don’t care about showing off their boards that much don’t really post a lot on this Reddit. Thus I see it as a non-issue. And I’m not a GMK absolutist. Some of my favorite keycaps sets are made by JTK and Domikey, who make Cherry double shot clones, triple shots, and an improved version of SA. I’m not even against the practice of clones, but buy things that are worth the money. Cheap PBT reverse dyesubs are clearly not worth the money.

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Ctrl-C-C-C-C t1_iucy94t wrote

I think we are arguing for the same point.

Those sellers that I have mentioned do not sell reverse dye-sub. They sell doubleshot ABS or dye-sub PBT for beige or white keycaps.

If you have actually tried them then you have the right to judge them but don’t judge them to be poor quality when you have never bought keycaps from those 3 sellers that I have mentioned. Bonus mention is Keychron’s doubleshot PBT cherry profile keycaps.

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Blur_410 t1_iudmaa7 wrote

I will be transparent, I actually don’t like PBT keycaps all that much. Not to say I don’t own quite a few, but I prefer ABS as a material for the feel. That said I have been to many meetups and have seen quite a few boards from average people. I would consider this as an acceptable alternative to buying all the cheap PBT caps ever(I have bought some). I wasn’t even trying to necessarily argue clones versus genuine, I was trying to argue quality per dollar.

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Ctrl-C-C-C-C t1_iudq40e wrote

Yeah but did your meet-ups have beige, grey, or white dye-sub PBT keycaps from XMI or shenpo? XMI is on the pricier side ever since he stopped selling on xianyu and taobao. He was selling for 198 RMB ~ 27.3 USD. Now on 21kb is about 60 USD. Which is still cheaper than most beige sets out there.

For shenpo, it’s very cheap for large compatibility. https://m.tb.cn/h.UVzUxZM?tk=tkg9dZLc8ld This beige set with Hebrew sub legends is only 188 RMB which converts to 26 USD. The quality per dollar is insane compared to lousy clones with reverse dye-sub.

These dye-sub pbt have smooth texture. I’m not sure if you understand but I’ll try to explain. Some ABS sets have those texture like when you rub your finger against it slowly, it will skip little by little. When I type on it, it moves me finger ever so slightly after bottoming out that it throws me off and I hate it.

Aifei’s previous batches of doubleshot ABS have that same texture, but for that price (169 RMB ~ 23.3 USD), I really can’t complain. Their new icons only mod doubleshot ABS set have very smooth texture like dye-sub PBT. I managed to try it at a recent meet-up but I didn’t test this “skipping” texture. If you just move quickly over it, it feels very smooth. I just ordered one set to try out for myself.

Keychron’s doubleshot PBT cherry profile keycaps have smooth texture too but a little “skippy” which triggers me a little hahaha. I’ve touched some doubleshot PBT from Monokei as well and that has quite rough texture. So I guess it’s not about the material, but rather the moulds that they use. It’s quite difficult to judge a set’s texture before touching it yourself :/

Again, not arguing against poorly made dye-sub or 5-side dye-sub PBT keycaps. Just trying to show you that there are dye-sub PBT keycaps that are done well and well worth its 25-30 USD price tag

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