Submitted by walterjrscs t3_yh578r in MechanicalKeyboards
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WeekendWarriorMark t1_iucenvq wrote
2nd! numpad section has just 3 columns. Arrows are aligned (something I’d prefer over the 1800)
Matasa89 t1_iucq361 wrote
Yeah I would call this an exploded 96%. It's not enough distance to be called 1800 and not compacted entirely like the 96%.
whyamihereimnotsure t1_iudcdjw wrote
Yeah but it’s also missing keys that those layouts traditionally have.
fantastic_beats t1_iue8ktl wrote
It's a … 1796 🤔
chromaticolette t1_iuf57lz wrote
itsthe bite of 87
working-acct t1_iuct5nq wrote
Look if it quacks like a 1800 I’m calling it a 1800.
raptor102888 t1_iuemsql wrote
It doesn't quack like an 1800 though. It doesn't have all the same columns, so it's functionality is wildly different.
ericausome t1_iufwz21 wrote
What is if klacks like one?
DangerPencil t1_iuh5a51 wrote
Then it's an 18pundred!!!
I'll see myself out...
forter4 t1_iudnr1w wrote
Yea, I was gonna say a compact 1800, but the numpad doesn't have the - + and ENTER keys...What's the point of a numpad if it doesn't have those keys? oof, this layout is a big "nope" from me
NintendogsWithGuns t1_iudzkv2 wrote
With this layout the numpad is already right next to the main enter key, the - + keys would have been a welcome addition though. Think this would have worked better with an ISO or JIS-inspired layout, as the main enter key would be taller and you might be able to make a creative use of the extra keys
fantastic_beats t1_iueathn wrote
Yeah, you could learn to use it, either with other layers or with the keys off to the left.
> the numpad doesn't have the - + and ENTER keys...What's the point of a numpad if it doesn't have those keys?
Num Lock makes tenkeys super handy as arrow keys/nav clusters, but this layout has a separate arrow cluster, which eats into that effectiveness a bit. The Candybar layout, which is a 40% with a tenkey, is one of the only ones I've seen with that philosophy. But at that point you may be better off with a 40% and a Murphpad you keep in a drawer and plug in when you need it
PackYourJammies t1_iuefiym wrote
I think the M0LLY as well?
Kirball904 t1_iuezte0 wrote
Having to take my hand on the TK to hit enter defeats the entire purpose of the TK IMO.
HMD-Oren t1_iucv1bh wrote
Having a numpad without an enter key seems strange...
saltineofmydream t1_iud2iut wrote
yeah this would not work for excel people unless you mapped a left hand enter key.
GolemancerVekk t1_iud3le9 wrote
Yeah, having the 2u zero on the left bottom and the 2u high enter on the right is like half the point of a dedicated numpad...
LkMMoDC t1_iudab5a wrote
There are merits to this design. You can access the normal enter and backspace with the same hand you're using on the numpad.
flappity t1_iudhbfj wrote
But the muscle memory! Also that's super awkward if you're doing lots of spreadsheets or entering lots of numbers constantly.
Qbopper t1_iuhnpox wrote
muscle memory is a weird argument though, considering some of the crazy layouts people use
if it works for you, it works for you; if it doesn't, then it doesn't
forter4 t1_iudob8p wrote
You "can" but it's not optimal. When I use excel or do anything, I tend to follow processes that allow the least amount of movement with my hands and least amount of time to actually do the job. Those two are typically interchangeable, but before you ask...yes, small movement make a difference overtime. Not necessarily in time saved, but in hand fatigue
Kirball904 t1_iuezyln wrote
Doesn’t seem efficient to me.
HMD-Oren t1_iuff8xa wrote
I'd have to agree. I'm a power excel user so at this point I'd just go straight to a 75 GMMK Pro style design rather than keep a nerfed numpad.
Kirball904 t1_iufh8sj wrote
I’m an avoider of glorious for ethical reasons but you do you.
HMD-Oren t1_iugyi5x wrote
I think you've misunderstood my comment.
MrB10b t1_iudv034 wrote
I think the word you are looking for is wrong :P /s
ThreadyKeycaps t1_iue77cq wrote
this and the lack of "+" "-" 🤔 but it looks good so I guess it's fine HAHA
raijba t1_iuefaj8 wrote
I know you might have to adjust your muscle memory, but 2.25u enter is only slightly further than the usual 2u vertical enter would normally be. Still usable IMO, and maybe worth it for people who want a more compact board but want to keep numpad functionality, albeit at slightly less functionality than a full numpad.
Shiba_Fett t1_iuc6uu9 wrote
Whatever it is, I want one now.
DrSmog t1_iudg5nm wrote
Same, I have so many 60ish% im getting sick of the format. I would love to have something like this with a 2.4ghz dongle.
webrender t1_iuc5r2v wrote
1800 or 96%
dontmakemegetavpn t1_iucpwu9 wrote
Condensed fullsize if you like words.
ABiggerTelevision t1_iuc6szn wrote
It appears to be named after the Cherry model 1800, I have the GMMK2 96%, damn nice keyboard.
aerospikesRcoolBut t1_iuc6voi wrote
Mega rare layout! What board is that
beardgrylls t1_iuc7h43 wrote
That's the M93I by Jojo Studio. It just started group buy a couple of days ago through Wuque Studio's website. Not sure if I can link it but a quick Google search should come up with the product page.
working-acct t1_iuct8ty wrote
I’m more interested in how Wuque is pronounced.
DriveByStoning t1_iucupbt wrote
Woo-chay
yayfurui t1_iuehwts wrote
Interesting, is that how the company said its pronounced or is that how its popularly pronounced in the western world? Just based on the Chinese "无缺" aka WuQue, I feel like it should be pronounced something like "woo-chreh".
DriveByStoning t1_iuf960f wrote
I'm assuming that's how they want it pronounced. All their YouTube videos are silent, but every reviewer I've seen has pronounced it like that from back when I started paying attention during the Ikki68 buy. Andy/Taeha/Betty/Alexotos/BadSeed/Clackbait/
Nomsfud t1_iucutd9 wrote
Whoo-ché
mohawk1367 t1_iufn5w0 wrote
wucky (jk idk lol)
walterjrscs OP t1_iuc75dc wrote
I now wanna know brand and model too! But I have no idea. This picture is just from a keycaps listing on AliExpress I've saved a while ago.
beardgrylls t1_iuc7j2e wrote
M93I by Jojo Studio. Just started group buy on Wuque Studio's website! Very tempted to pick one up.
TheSound0fSilence t1_iuc9n3w wrote
Just buy a Keychron V5.
aeo1us t1_iuce35a wrote
A Keychron v5 is ABS housing and the numpad placement doesn't look as tight as this one does. Plus I love that blue + the pen holder.
Granted, none of that matters if they don't want to wait.
WeekendWarriorMark t1_iucda6m wrote
*keychron (autocorrect?)
Edit: Keychron V5 also has six more keys compared to the one in the pic by foregoing the spacing left and right of the f-keys and right of the space going for 1u instead of 1.25u. On the numpad section the one pictured doesn’t come w/ four columns +-= and the top row key are missing. Also the arrow keys are slightly offset downwards on the v5 reminiscent of the vintage 1800, which the one pictured doesn’t do.
TheSound0fSilence t1_iudhy93 wrote
Yes. Fixed it.
TheSound0fSilence t1_iudi25b wrote
But it's also $100 vs $350!
Kirball904 t1_iuf0b46 wrote
Cheaper doesn’t always mean better. There’s a reason it costs less and it’s usually the quality.
TheSound0fSilence t1_iuf6shr wrote
Split the difference and get a Leopold FC980M or Vortex Tab 90M?
Thiefade t1_iucdgfq wrote
What’re the keycaps?
Kirball904 t1_iuf0eex wrote
I feel like it was a GMK gradient at one point. I think Signature plastics has also done a similar gradient.
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Horned_Dolphin t1_iucjqfc wrote
Can you say what these key caps are called? I like them
Not-A-Lazy-Person t1_iucvn5b wrote
Unrelated, but does anyone know if the keycaps are sold separately? The color looks so sick
NiteStryker33 t1_iuekuxu wrote
Sure are. Pics have same board and background, too. Bunch of other Etsy listings for different number of caps at various prices.
Not-A-Lazy-Person t1_iufg8s6 wrote
Thanks a bunch!
ostrichual t1_iudsrbb wrote
Probably something off of etsy bc I got a keycap set that looks exactly like it from there
Not-A-Lazy-Person t1_iufg7ux wrote
Thank you!
keevesnchives t1_iuc612g wrote
I believe that's called a 1800 compact keyboard, or a 96%.
Bleeezus t1_iudj2ui wrote
ID on keycaps?
NiteStryker33 t1_iueknut wrote
These. Same board and background, too.
zabuma t1_iucdplh wrote
96%ers are really the best
free2game t1_iucf8v0 wrote
An 1800 style layout that misses a lot of the better points of an 1800 layout.
amelore t1_iucmklm wrote
Having a numpad with a column less does not seem very practical, You could use the main enter since there's no nav cluster in between but you still lost the - + keys
Are you sure the numkeys are supposed to go there? Could just be nav cluster and 8 extras.
zenzoka t1_iucsjgh wrote
Pretty sure that's where the numpad goes. There are a variety of layouts like this and like you said, seems highly impractical to me too. Numpads are a must for what I do so 1800s are my go-tos, and the lack of +, - and Enter on this particular layout have me screaming "Why?!"
To me numpad is the kinda thing where you either have a full one or do completely without. No in-betweens.
amelore t1_iuct83d wrote
Yes absolutely nothing against have no numpad (or no f-row, no navcluster, etc) just really weird to almost have a full numpad. What's the benefit supposed to be?
cinlung t1_iudoce8 wrote
I just realized this numpad has no plus sign when you said this.
peanutbutterwife t1_iuczuwt wrote
My guess? Data entry. I do a ton of data entry into spreadsheets and almost never need those keys.
Funny enough, as an old school touch typist, I didn't like using those anyways. Having dedicated numbers is nice for data entry, but for formula entry into cells, I'll use the upper line +/- and all that because I'm already using alpha numeric for the cell identifiers. Just a theory, based on use and layout. YMMV.
EDIT: autocorrect needed fixing
dhruvshan01 t1_iucobbw wrote
Keycaps look amazing
Shidoshisan t1_iuf1z75 wrote
So many wrong answers. Why guess? Either you know and answer or don’t. It’s close to a full size but has no nav keys so is a 90-something. This specific layout is a 93% it seems as it is the Jojo m93.
R4DG t1_iuc7qoo wrote
I love my Epomaker 96 with a knob. Sounds great stock
MayAsWellStopLurking t1_iuce88p wrote
I’d call it 1800 minus a column
amuro_rei t1_iufleb7 wrote
actually the term is 1800 Compact :)
Brabino t1_iudqjyo wrote
Numpad without Enter key is big no go
TooMuchMech t1_iue0hu5 wrote
Messing with the numpad is unforgivable. Just get a tkl.
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LordNoodles1 t1_iucdo7w wrote
I have Keychron version and I regret it because I can’t find the arrow keys quickly for the work I do.
m4chinehead2 t1_iucdoyr wrote
Looks like a akko mod003 :) or very similar i have 2 :)
lxxx_GodKing_xxxl t1_iucg6q3 wrote
if I'm not wrong, it called 96%
Gausgovy t1_iucgrco wrote
Don’t think this layout has a name. 96% keyboard have another row of mods to the right of the numpad, but that’s the closest standard layout to this.
m0ro_ t1_iuciscw wrote
Speaking as an 1800 owner and lover....GIMME
The_Bean_Salesman t1_iucpsoj wrote
weird. cool
George_G_Geef t1_iucq4r3 wrote
perfect
iyeetdog t1_iucwd2d wrote
Jojo m93?
DrLatency t1_iuczf8x wrote
It should be unique to this board, doesn't seem like Jojo studio gave this layout a name in their IC post for M93, I guess calling it 93 or something similar would make sense, though idk if you can find another board like this rn
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4CID_bs t1_iud825d wrote
It looks like 1800 but i think its missing a row
ExtraOordinary t1_iud92cw wrote
Full size?
Hi_I_Guess__ t1_iud9ou1 wrote
I know I'm probably wrong (I'm mildly new to keebs) but I think this is a 96 percent
constantgeneticist t1_iudhnxl wrote
Man I really like this
Blueyduey t1_iudm6oy wrote
Tenkeyyess
Shv1nx_ t1_iudoxl8 wrote
70 or 75% i think
FormalChicken t1_iudtbe7 wrote
It looks like some jacked up 96%. Every 96 I've seen is compact, no spacing between the num pad like this.
Beautiful_Sport5525 t1_iudvtho wrote
What board is this? This layout is perfect... I want.
immacomputah t1_iudwtci wrote
75% Edit: no wait…85%?
WhoIsRodrix t1_iudy72k wrote
It’s called 95%. I’ve used it for a while on my first mech now, and it’s absolutely amazing, only one key longer than a TKL without the useless [ for me ] nav keys and with the useful [ for me ] numpad. Akko 3098b with Akko CS Jelly Pink. Amazing keyboard with foam, Aluminum plate, PBT caps and hotswap.
Bierdigan_ t1_iue6bx5 wrote
Is OP looking for this exact board or just something in the ballpark of that layout? Probably a fairly large difference in price between the two
walterjrscs OP t1_iueblcz wrote
People pointed out this is the JoJo m93. I was mostly looking to see if this layout has a name so I can look for similar keyboards but sounds like this is not a very standard layout.
Bierdigan_ t1_iuetlta wrote
For sure. I saw a lot of the comments were getting into the nitty gritty but I was curious what it was you were really aiming for in the end. It's not standard, but it's definitely standard adjacent haha, the most uniqueness seems to mostly just be in the placement of the numpad/arrow keys/blocker area
darknessblades t1_iueg9x8 wrote
90% northpaw [southpaw but with the numpad on the right]
WrathofCorg t1_iuf0fyy wrote
I really like the color of this board. I’m new to the hobby and trying to find something like this in a full or TLK. Anybody know of one that isn’t 269 dollars for a barebones board?
BigerBigBogTim t1_iuf7d5z wrote
idk
amuro_rei t1_iuf8xq2 wrote
compact keyboard with numpad are often called 96 but the proper term is the "1800 Compact" and yes there are 96 keys. :)
difference between this and the full size keyboard is on the full size there are ample space between the numpad, function keys and main keyboard whereas in the 1800 compact all of those keys are smack back stuck together to eliminate all those space.
amartinkyle t1_iufjzrz wrote
I’d say normal sized
_Hero4Fun_ t1_iufo9ko wrote
1800
[deleted] t1_iufqt3v wrote
Whatever it is, it’s missing the + and - for numpad:(
indeoencoder t1_iuft76n wrote
It needs braces.
istarian t1_iug0xus wrote
FWIW there can be more than one correct name.
Merjia t1_iucbb7v wrote
I’ve mostly seen them called 96%
KXMXBOKO__GXNPXCHIRO t1_iucda0l wrote
96%
Defco t1_iucg8r9 wrote
Too big 😂
RoycevanBeethoven t1_iucdvg7 wrote
I don't think this is an 1800. 1800s generally have a numpad on the right, but this doesn't.
MayAsWellStopLurking t1_iuce77z wrote
It has a numpad but no -/+ and enter column
RoycevanBeethoven t1_iucfbnu wrote
I'm not sure where you got your definition of numpad, but numpads contain four columns with the mathematical operations you mentioned.
raptor102888 t1_iucfkm8 wrote
I think 0 through 9 arranged in a 3 x 4 grid can absolutely be called a "numpad". It's just not a tenkey.
RoycevanBeethoven t1_iucg8aw wrote
I'm not sure when definitions changed for the numeric keypad, but it's always be 17 keys where I grew up, plus minus a couple of keys.
raptor102888 t1_iucgh2h wrote
Yeah I don't think we're speaking in terms of strict definitions here. He just meant it has a numpad minus the last column. And I don't think saying it that way was confusing to anyone.
ifancytacos t1_iucmlh9 wrote
This is needlessly pedantic. We all agree that it isn't a full numpad and that this isn't a standard 1800 or 96% layout because of that, but saying it doesn't have a numpad is just wrong. It does. It just isn't a standard numpad, and that's what makes this a non-standard layout
MayAsWellStopLurking t1_iucm14l wrote
While we’re being pedantic, 1800 also doesn’t accurately describe it as the arrow cluster on the g80-1800 has some separation from the alpha cluster as well.
In that case, there’s no actual shorthand term to describe this keyboard, so I guess it’s just a unicorn ¯_(ツ)_/¯
RoycevanBeethoven t1_iucmwwo wrote
I apologize. I almost forgot for a moment which subreddit I'm on. After all, I'm in r/MechanicalKeyboards, where having a genuine opinion that differs from the majority of people is equivalent to being pedantic. Thank you once again for the reminder. I truly appreciate it.
I would also like to point out that I believe you're right in your assessment with the arrow cluster. This might be a variant of the standard 1800 layout, but not actually the 1800 layout. I think it's a cool layout though.
raptor102888 t1_iucc1dq wrote
Lots of comments answering 1800 out 96%. But this isn't one of those. It's something slightly smaller, and the layout itself probably doesn't have a name, just unique to this board.