GuyFromDeathValley t1_ixyfxyi wrote on November 27, 2022 at 10:29 AM

Reply to comment by Necessary_Way6322 in Me whenever I ask a question or post a non-meta keyboard in this sub by HydroCigna

And then there's people like me, not finding sufficient information on my research for my first mech keyboard, and getting downvoted on my comment asking in the megathread what switches to choose.

But agreed, low effort is bad.

C9_Starkiller t1_iy0h27c wrote on November 27, 2022 at 8:36 PM

while i obviously don't speak for everyone, and dicks will almost certainly still show up and attack you no matter what...

i think it's a point of how did you ask it? Did you say "n00b here what switches do I choose???" or "hey, i have tried a couple of boards and find myself leaning towards the feel of linear switches. the ones i tried seemed light/heavy and instead i want something heavy/light. any suggestions?"

people taking time to help and be empathetic are 1000% going to interact with the comment looking like another budding hobbyist over the millionth useless "wut switchs does i git?" comment.

GuyFromDeathValley t1_iy0ni66 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 9:17 PM

well, I explained my situation short: I'm a rubberdome user, but own a keyboard with red switches that I feel are nice but feel empty to me. Now I found a keyboard and can't decide on which switches I should get or which are better for me to be close to the rubberdome feel. Nailed it down to red or white switches, and had trouble figuring out what linear and tactile means and how big the feedback feels.

Sure, people can only help that much but, I was genuinely looking for help, not being lazy. at that point I already researched for 2 days as much as I could but there is only so much you can find online on articles. I had another keyboard as reference but no real idea how it compares to, say white switches in terms of feel and reactivity.

snackelmypackel t1_ixyj2re wrote on November 27, 2022 at 11:15 AM

All try to help i have quite a few boards and have tried a lot of switches. I like helping where i can so feel free

GuyFromDeathValley t1_ixyvthx wrote on November 27, 2022 at 1:47 PM

Thanks for the offer, already bought it though after getting like, zero help anywhere. Ended up going with the Kailh Box White switches, feel nice and now I know that no article I found really mentions the actual feel of the switch.

QWERKey-UK t1_ixyrbfe wrote on November 27, 2022 at 1:00 PM

>downvoted on my comment asking in the megathread what switches to choose.

Because that's the dumbest question ever, that's why. It's like posting to ask what brand of peanut butter to buy. All you will get is people recommending what THEY like, so you end up with a massive list. What do you do then, go and buy them all? Very few switches are actually "bad" and there's no such thing as the "best" switch.

Beyond advising you on linear or tactile based on what you are currently used to... and possible how heavy or light you want them to be, there's not much else anyone can advise you about. Even if you do that, the remaining list is still massive.

Unless you actually get specific, and ask "What is the best switch with a POM stem, nylon housing, progressive spring and no more than 50g actuation force" it would be really difficult to be specific, and let's be honest, if you had done enough research to know enough to ask such a detailed question, you don't really need help buying a switch.

Ultimately, with switches, you don't really know if you will like it, until you try it. This is why I always smile when switches are named after foods - it's appropriate.

GuyFromDeathValley t1_ixyvo0t wrote on November 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM

What kinda logic is that though? tell someone, who has no clue, to ask ultra specific questions.. you can only ask as specific questions as you understand yourself.

Unfortunately, I had no idea how the feel of switches compare to the feel of a rubberdome keyboard, and that is where my problem was and why I asked. I needed some information maybe from a former rubberdome user who switched to mechanical and might give me an insight how they compare.

My question was specifically: What switch would be better suited for a former rubberdome user: Kailh Box red or White. I gave specific information that I wanted as close to rubberdome feel as possible, but need a noticeable feedback. that's it. I don't know if red switches maybe do have a feedback that simply nobody mentions because "duh everybody knows they got feedback" or the other way round..

It's quite hard as a newbie to find this kinda information online when 99% of the articles just.. compare the switches feels to those of another mechanical keyboards switches..

Dumb questions are usually a result of lack of knowledge. How do you get knowledge? by experience. Online articles aren't always the solution and just buying a random keyboard "on good luck" is also a bad idea.

TheSquashManHimself t1_iy1do94 wrote on November 28, 2022 at 12:24 AM

To be fair, there are probably hundreds of youtube video reviews/sound tests the might immediately fill in a lot of information. Im willing to bet that if you just searched "kailh box red versus white" on youtube you would learn that reds are linears and box whites are tactlie clickies in les than 5 minutes, and you would have an impresion of their sound. I agree somewhat with others - the feel of switches is super subjective, so most advice other than the very basic "this is clicky/linear/tactile/silent" is almost entirely opinionated (and has likely a massive variance between users - 5 people will call some switches trash and the next 5 will say they are personal favorites). Its almost the same issue of going to a grocery store produce section and asking some clerk "which tastes better apples or grapes? Btw I like cantaloupe as a reference." - it would make much more sense to buy a few peices of fruit - try them on your own time and then decide what you like best. Indeed, you can also buy relative cheap switch testers before committing to a specific switch. For more artisanal switches you pretty much just have to try them for yourself. You can also search for local keyboard meetups to see if you can try certain boards in person if people are willing to let you (just ask nicely and have clean hands lol).

People should definitely not get mad at you (and Im sorry of they did) - thats not cool. But, even at best, its really hard to answer subjective questions like this.