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SiGrason t1_j69xjd8 wrote

r/spicypillows

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Sailor_MayaYa t1_j6d4hai wrote

^ would like to add that there's a guide on disposing off them on that sub

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hellomateyy t1_j69ysiq wrote

First: Don't use anything sharp. A punctured battery is a burning battery.

I've had this issue couple times when replacing MacBook batteries. I used the iFixit adhesive removal liquid and plastic cards shimmied underneath the battery, loosening the adhesive enough to remove the battery without force.

Here's the iFixit instructions for how to do a similar kind of battery removal.

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SquishyOrangeBook t1_j69ua74 wrote

I wouldn’t risk it. You hand is worth more than any keyboard

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wosmo t1_j6b4os2 wrote

Looks like the inside of a keychron K-series to me

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laffeybunn t1_j6bwkxt wrote

Are they known for these issues?

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wosmo t1_j6bwxvs wrote

not that I've heard of. I only recognise it because I gave my K8 a silicone pour to give it more heft and less of a hollow sound - and it looked exactly the same as this, even down to the lumps for the two switches (mac/pc and bt/usb) and the gap for usb-c at the far end.

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notpr0nacct t1_j6c9rrv wrote

I’ve never heard of silicone in the case, I’ll have to try that out, thanks

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laffeybunn t1_j6g9egq wrote

It's a fairly popular mod. I've done it a lot and it's a near-necessity for cheap ABS tray mount boards

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Dizi1 t1_j6cxboy wrote

Lithium-ion batteries are known for this issue in general. It's completely typical for the majority of these batteries that over time they lose capacity and swell up. It's more of a question of when it happens rather than if it happens. If you opened up all your old phones, at least half of them would have a swollen battery

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Vazh93 OP t1_j6bcd12 wrote

Got it out by using acetone and a card. Placed it now in a box filled with some sand.

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IpseDeludetIllusores t1_j6bhzsy wrote

Perfect. You should be able to find a battery recycling drop off somewhere nearby (sometimes the local dump, or grocery store) They may have packaging directions like wrapping the contacts with electrical tape or putting it in a box before drop off, but that will solve the "I don't want to keep a bomb in my desk drawer" problem.

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cmf5 t1_j6c5tar wrote

Hardware stores usually have safe battery disposal

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docentmark t1_j6cyzra wrote

Those are normally intended for alkaline cells, Li-ion needs special treatment because of its fire/explosion potential.

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S3HN5UCHT t1_j6corm6 wrote

My local post office takes batteries maybe yours will

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ClaudioJar t1_j6ck1m6 wrote

Very safe handling of the battery! Congrats!

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whaddap t1_j69wfyk wrote

If you let the battery drain to 0% it will be much less dangerous to handle. Use a plastic tool like a credit card to scrape it off the adhesive. If you pierce the layers with a metal tool you could cause a reaction.

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disoculated t1_j6a2chl wrote

Fwiw, putting the part in the freezer will weaken the adhesive.

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The_Legionare t1_j69whfc wrote

like others have said, no need to risk it. that looks like a relatively basic black base, you can definitely find a replacement part for dirt cheap.

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TotalWalrus t1_j6benfm wrote

Where exactly am I supposed to find replacement keyboard cases?

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The_Legionare t1_j6dfdoz wrote

my b i figured this type of stuff was public info. sites like kbdfans, and basically any other mechanical keyboard parts distributor out of china, should have a replacement base that can fit the pcb and plate. you probably won't find the exact same one, but you'll have options and as long as it fits the pcb and the plate (which you can check by seeing if the screw holes line up with the pcb, that it fits the same size keyb that your pcb is, and by making sure that the case accepts a plate).
KBDfans is the biggest one of these sites, but it offers slightly higher end stuff so you mght not find a cheap plastic case, but they'll have options that will fit. if you want the exact thing that's still probably possible but you'll have to do some digging around other sites.

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AdolphFTW t1_j6a2z4c wrote

Just got a keeb with a battery in it and I want to ask how long did it take for yours to get swollen. Im really concerned that I wont notice it, because I have modded mine.

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Vazh93 OP t1_j6bc7oy wrote

It took about 2 years. The battery was actually very swollen that it was pushing down on the case and the bottom was no longer flat. That's how I knew what was happening.

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AtDawnWeDEUSVULT t1_j6a8ddu wrote

Heck, I have a stock keeb I haven't modded at all, and I'm sure I wouldn't notice if the battery started swelling

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AdolphFTW t1_j6a8hq3 wrote

Guess I gotta open it up ever couple of months. Just to be sure it aint going to explode on me lol

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kseulgisbaby t1_j6aut51 wrote

This is funny to me considering most companies don’t want us opening our purchased products in order to fix them.. so what are we supposed to do? Most casual consumers don’t get the itch like we do to open it up to see what’s inside.. are they supposed to be at risk of the battery bursting?

It’s great how there are people fighting for “right to repair” tho (:

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AdolphFTW t1_j6b2va3 wrote

Well, if we abide by the companies logic we should be buying their products again and again, whenever we have issues with their product. So, yeah Im going to advocate my right to repair.

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AtDawnWeDEUSVULT t1_j6a8zd7 wrote

As far as I know, your battery should be good for at least 3-4 years of normal use, so you probably don't have to worry about it for a while

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AdolphFTW t1_j6a9nga wrote

I hope you are right. I dont want a fire hazard on my desk lol.

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AtDawnWeDEUSVULT t1_j6aa0f1 wrote

The risk is about the same as the other rechargeable batteries in your phone, laptop, etc. Not saying that to make you worry about those things more, but hopefully worry about this less

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AdolphFTW t1_j6fy0qv wrote

Im still considering to put EVA foam on top of it. Every youtuber does it and I dont think normal charging cant generate enough heat to become a problem.

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cmmint2000 t1_j6bhbal wrote

I have a k4v2 I got 2 years ago and I opened mine recently and the battery wasn't swollen at all, so your mileage may vary

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xxInsanex t1_j69v8uj wrote

Pour isopropyl alcohol between the battery and case to help soften the adhesion then use a flat plastic spudger.

Use a left and right motion to cut away at the glue and more of a downward force as to not apply too much pressure on the battery, for safety reasons i suggest wearing gloves, eye protection and doing it outside

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Cofor t1_j6a7ym7 wrote

Yeah but this alcohol is flammable. You REALLY have to be outside and put the main alcohol container a distance away.

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Shiba_Fett t1_j6a2mfj wrote

Wear gloves & eye protection if you're worried about it. Definitely don't use metal tools. I would just pull it off, I've never had issues ripping these out of phones or tables. The glue is normally not that strong. After it's removed keep it away from water and sharp objects.

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Kazukiba t1_j6c7e7m wrote

Just got an EV battery manipulation training and some answer gave me cold sweat.

No sharp object, no heat, avoid chemical (especially the ones that could react with heat), dispose of it in something that doesn t burn and that can be covered with water (battery don t need oxygen to burn and they self sustain their heat and fire, only cooling it off work to stop the fire) and lastly, stock it outside, the gaz that escape from those fucker is highly toxic.

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VirtualVoices t1_j6b9sq5 wrote

Use something flat, not sharp, and plastic, not metal. Use some rubbing alcohol to dissolve the adhesive if it's stuck on there well, don't try to force it out with leverage because you may puncture. Once you have it out, place it in a sealed container, preferably metal and drop it off at your nearest repair shop, if they take batteries.

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TouchMyKeyboard t1_j6bejlu wrote

And this is why I removed the the battery from my K8 Pro a week after it showed up. I wanted to avoid this.

I used a piece of Technora cord to remove mine. Basically I worked it under the battery and just slowly pulled it through the adhesive. Mine wasn’t swollen though so I’m not sure that if you did try something like this if the pressure would make it explode in your face. Good luck 🤞

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Cybasura t1_j6bydbu wrote

Slow and steady wins the race

You most certainly want to push it up from the base, so long as you dont puncture, the pillow wont explode

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Sedazin t1_j6c84to wrote

Dental floss. Put it under the battery and then pull it as flat as possible through the glue between case and battery.

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darknessblades t1_j6cf7wp wrote

use a old credit card or similar shaped card and slowly pry under the battery

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Pioppo- t1_j6cic48 wrote

Watch a YouTube video

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pluqsta t1_j6cxgnr wrote

Buy pure isopropanol and just put it on. The isopropanol will make the glue soft and you can just remove the battery without any dangerous problems

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Znaszlisiora t1_j6cznd8 wrote

Very considerate of the manufacturer to put a sheet of plastic between the battery and the circuit board at least.

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RovakX t1_j6dm0mz wrote

Don't pierce it. Try dissolving the glue with IPA. That worked very well when I replaced my macbook battery last week.

Edit: IPA is isopropyl alcohol, not the beer type. Though I'd like to see you try ;)

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nateth t1_j6ecb5u wrote

Beer IPA is an emotional solvent.

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RiboNucleic85 t1_j6do8lh wrote

I wish manufacturers would stop gluing batteries into devices, it creates a massive hazard when the battery needs replacing

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wlds0695 t1_j6f57n3 wrote

Where my wired gang at?

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on4aa t1_j6fab6u wrote

Dissolve the glue with white spirit = terpentine, which is more gentile to plastic than other suggestions. Just do not use it on clear plastics.

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amikemark t1_j6mczyd wrote

wear gloves, pull hard

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KZ_D t1_j6bl5ve wrote

dammit glad mine didnt burst when I just peeled it off from the longer side💀 def wont do it again with a swollen battery

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genxfarm t1_j6cfihm wrote

It's not gonna pop, just yank it out

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notpr0nacct t1_j6c9pc3 wrote

Wear oven mitts and pry that bitch off with a screwdriver yolo

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f8tel t1_j6cbuk3 wrote

3 mins with a hair dryer will probably turn the adhesive goey. I've removed many batteries that way.

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road_laya t1_j6chnit wrote

Do you really want to risk heating something that is a potential fire hazard?

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f8tel t1_j6dxdlx wrote

The hair dryer doesn't get it nearly hot enough to be a problem. You have to worry about puncture, exposing the lithium to air so you don't want to poke or bend it. I slowly heat and lift and in a minute or two it just comes up like it's stuck with old gum.

It's much cleaner than trying to use chemicals and safer than trying to wedge/cut. I don't know why more people don't know to do it this way.

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wolbeas t1_j6agzjj wrote

Put some Aloe Vera

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FitAd9195 t1_j6awn0l wrote

I've done with slightly warming up the plastic by putting lighter flame on back side, to warm up the adhesive, You are lucky if they used a double-sided tape/foam, but this sounds dangerous, but it worked on my case

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Dima_I t1_j6aors4 wrote

puncture it

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