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Comfortable_Mango_11 OP t1_j6cxpmt wrote

Replying to pedrorq (#1,578,962)

I tried that but I kept slapping the void above the Enter key because that's where I usually find it. Also, in a kajillion years of typing, I don't think I've ever needed the right shift key! I find this layout a lot easier to deal with than what I had yesterday (I posted other pictures of this strange ISO Q9 misadventure.)

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SilentRanger t1_j6cyolo wrote

I just got mine and I use the dash as a backspace, tab as escape and caps lock as tab.

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flembag t1_j6d0aaj wrote

Why not use the enter key for both a backspace and a carnage return?

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flembag t1_j6d1hwp wrote

Replying to Comfortable_Mango_11 (#1,579,715)

Idk. I've used tons of programs where you have to use shift+return to get a carriage return, and the. Crtl+return to submit your entry. It's not as bad as you think.

Also, if you don't ever make a mistake typing, you never have to use your fn+enter to delete something. It would force you to get really good putting your thoughts to text.

Also, I generally only use one of the shift keys. So I would consider using the other one for an enter.

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flembag t1_j6d35qa wrote

Replying to Comfortable_Mango_11 (#1,580,110)

"I want to avoid diving into different layers because I type so much and often have to reframe and contextualize my prose."

Then why did you build a minimalist board? Sounds like you're trying to force an ok tool at doing something that a different tool would excel at.

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Comfortable_Mango_11 OP t1_j6d4xnn wrote

Replying to flembag (#1,580,196)

If it doesn't work out I can always grab me a Q2 but other than the delete key situation (which I think I have solved) I'm not really having any problems with the Q9. It is a weird keyboard - and I wish I'd bought the ANSI version! - but it's lovely to type on.

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Joaquox t1_j6d5i9m wrote

What do you even need backspace for? Just type correctly in the first place!

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maxmalkav t1_j6d6if8 wrote

I take this as an attack on the glorious ISO enter key :-|

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JDBCool t1_j6dj8zv wrote

Where you the fellow that's missing like 1u keys for ISO?

Like.... yesterday? (Or some 13h-19h before this post)

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222phoenix t1_j6dl21i wrote

you can program backspace on tap, return on hold, or vice versa.

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MrPakoras t1_j6dl7z1 wrote

Why do you have Bluetooth button?

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wsahn7 t1_j6dloen wrote

random comment but I have the exact identical keycap set. love the curves feature of the keycaps; how they fit your fingers

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pollt t1_j6dtqsq wrote

Capslock as backspace works like a charm.

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IndependentAlive2587 t1_j6duna5 wrote

Get yourself a 65% or 75%.
From your own comments you even contradict yourself in the manner of getting a 40% but not willing to learn / use the layers or function keys as often for these basic tasks.

I've looked at 40% and yeah it does look interesting. And I 100% agree, I'd throw the keyboard out the window too if I had to use FN keys to use simple strokes as backspace. 😂

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MauroDelMal t1_j6e13hw wrote

Have you tried any left key + ISO-Enter = Backspace?

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Comfortable_Mango_11 OP t1_j6e4tha wrote

Replying to IndependentAlive2587 (#1,584,871)

I don't mind using layers for numbers, as I don't often need them. Ditto #$%^ etc. But digging for very basic things which I use every few seconds would be truly masochistic. I have a few more standard keyboards, an Epomaker and couple of Kludges - but the heftiness of this is lovely so if I do cave in and revert to something bigger it will probably be a Q2 or something like that. An altogether different kind of quality and really nice to type on.

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IndependentAlive2587 t1_j6e5vuy wrote

Replying to Comfortable_Mango_11 (#1,586,651)

Haha I can imagine, even though I really don't see the beneficial standpoint of 40% (yet), I've come to really like their formfactor and niche.

I've come from different sizes and happily landed on 75% as my last one now.
The rabbit hole is deep in this hobby, worse than when I was into the world of watches. 😅

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StrickenForCause t1_j6e7214 wrote

Replying to Comfortable_Mango_11 (#1,580,502)

Don’t mind that person. Nothing wrong with having a minimalist board that suits your needs. I write shorthand professionally in real time on a 65% board and have had to do some silly things like swap shift with ctrl to get everything just the way I need it for my purposes. All that matters is that the layout reflects your individual needs, and only you know what those are!

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StrickenForCause t1_j6e7b5q wrote

This is a really cute little board! Love your numpad and the colors.

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heyitscassio t1_j6eis7f wrote

Replying to flembag (#1,579,629)

Even here with my 30% splits that I use I have a dedicated backspace. It happens that making mistakes is pretty common, so it's convenient to have the backspace easily accessible.

You could use combos, it would be more convenient than a layer for some people.

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SeaworthinessOk2846 t1_j6et5vh wrote

Thank you so much for your humble clarifications. I would have never thought that those two keys would be both backspace and enter. I would have thought that the backspace would be a second enter key due to the ISO layout.

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on4aa t1_j6f9dos wrote

Recently, I had a similar thought about using an ISO-Enter keycap upside down to combine Tab and CapsLock into a single Tab key. Unfortunately, the stem receptacles are not properly located for that, but otherwise the keycap woud fit. Just, some silly thought…

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boredrandom t1_j6fbe9p wrote

LOL, nice. I just used some novelties (that didn't have labels).

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NomDePlume007 t1_j6fvwc7 wrote

I just remapped the pipe|backslash key as the backspace. Isn't that what everyone does? What am I missing?

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TERNAL42 t1_j6g1qzk wrote

just use the knob as backspace

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LonelyLgnd t1_j6g8y9o wrote

What is the knob for? I have done endless searching and have found no answer

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Bagafeet t1_j6gak39 wrote

Add a foot pedal backspace and type like an oldschool seamstress.

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Pleasant-Dependent63 t1_j6gavv7 wrote

Solved my bigger delima of key names. Never thought of printing labels lol. I been referencing the screenshot for months. Nothing is what it's supposed to be lol 😆

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Robolon t1_j6glecn wrote

Jokes aside, this gives the board a bit of character and charm.

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Daddysu t1_j6gq8f1 wrote

The obvious play is counterclockwise on the knob for backspace.

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Yehezqel t1_j6gtbk2 wrote

You could program the knob to act as backspace when turning it counterclockwise.

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Shadow_Asii t1_j6gvwvv wrote

I was actually going to do something similar, mapping enter to backspace, backslash to enter, and the key under the knob toggling the keyboard to colemak

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ilovezezima t1_j6h64x3 wrote

Replying to pollt (#1,584,721)

Otherwise what could work (as an anti caps lock method)

Left control moves to capslock

Fn + shift for capslock

| \ key becomes backspace (fn makes it delete)

Old left control becomes | \

That keeps it somewhat natural (apart from the |\ key but either you barely use it and so it doesn't really matter where it is or you use it quite a bit so you'd get used to it).

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Tulip2MF t1_j6hen7k wrote

At what speed you type and how many mistakes?

Just wanted to understand the reason behind making easily accessible large key as backspace instead of enter

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Tulip2MF t1_j6hepls wrote

Number 2 + left/right arrow key could be your delete or backspace

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danb007 t1_j6hj53g wrote

If you get use to that you understand it was a mistake as soon as you get a new keyboard

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DrillFister t1_j6hzna2 wrote

What is the.... Point? Sorry if I sound like an idiot but the lack of a backspace seems totally redundant to me.

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Comfortable_Mango_11 OP t1_j6i4760 wrote

Replying to DrillFister (#1,612,708)

Nobody knows what Keychron were thinking, because they don't even have pictures of what the ISO version of this is supposed to look like. They only sell it barebones. But yeah - someone like me who likes cursor keys is definitely gonna want a backspace key too!

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retrospacive t1_j6jeq5f wrote

There’s no backspace!? What were they thinking?

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Comfortable_Mango_11 OP t1_j6m3bqo wrote

Replying to retrospacive (#1,649,609)

The ANSI version is much better. Still no backspace, but there is a key above ENTER which could be used as an alternative. This ISO version, however is super-weird. Even Keychron don't provide pictures of how it should look when assembled!

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