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westmifflin t1_j5c2g6a wrote

If you are playing pvp games youre literally just a cheater lmfao

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Fuspo OP t1_j5c387d wrote

Explain that logic

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Noob4Head t1_j5cgdjg wrote

It's a "unfair advantage" against controller players.
Since you can be MUCH more accurate with mouse & keyboard. Though these new consoles just allow it so it's not really "cheating" anymore back on Xbox One and PS4 you had to buy one of those special adapters to be able to use mouse & keyboard.

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r00t4cc3ss t1_j5cly4k wrote

Many games also have cross play with pc these days anyway

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Noob4Head t1_j5cmpou wrote

Yeah that's why I went "unfair advantage". If platform allows it you can't really blame the player for using it. I'd probably do the same for some games.

This is like the complete opposite of me. I play one PC but i've been using a controller most of the time these pased couple of months xD

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r00t4cc3ss t1_j5cnhbj wrote

Yeah I get it. On the other hand certain games give you some godlike aim assist when using a controller.

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Noob4Head t1_j5cntuh wrote

COD warzone *cough cough* (legit quit that game since the aim assist was literally aimbot and everyone was abusing the shit out of that. Never touched the game ever since then.)

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r00t4cc3ss t1_j5cnxp5 wrote

Yeah, I play MW2 and it's exactly what I was referring to.

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nkt_rb t1_j5edfio wrote

The new consoles allow to use it "natively" but this is mainly for UI, the game devs can decide to support it, so in PvP games they disable helps like aim assist, like in PC games but moalstly do not support it.

Next the PS4/PS5 do not have a good support for mouse, you have 0 driver, the mouse precision is broken and configuration is minimal.

But hey unfair to play controller with aim assist vs a broken mouse, I do not know how many handicaps controller players want but this a joke.

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Noob4Head t1_j5edora wrote

I've tried keyboard and mouse back when I was stillk playing on Xbox One and it worked perfectly fine. Games like R6, Fortnite, etc. had never been easier. So idk where you get this from but that certainly wasn't the case for me. Both my house and keyboard worked great with no noticable imput latency or any other thing. Even the onboard profile of my mouse worked.

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nkt_rb t1_j5eeevl wrote

I talk about PS for support, I explained it, and the guy is on PS5.

On Xbox I do not know but on PS support for kbm is not on every games at all.

Even if it works perfecly (which is not on PS5) how can it be "cheat" ? Controller players have aim assist nowaday, this is not like most of pros play controller... but hey maybe they are dumb...

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Noob4Head t1_j5el1qh wrote

It hardly depends on the aim assist the game had.
Like in cod warzone you can better play with controller even on PC since you get aim bot not aim assist. The snapping and snapping rate in that game is absolutely ridiculous

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Plutus77 t1_j5fspb3 wrote

Aim assist is so strong on controller these days it’s not even that different. It’s literally just preference

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Noob4Head t1_j5gbudx wrote

meh smoothness of movement and being able to quickly adjust your aim (flick) will always be much easier on mouse and keyboard.
Almost in every single FPS game you can instantly tell if someone is using mouse and keyboard just by looking at their movement.

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Plutus77 t1_j5gpbi5 wrote

But you don’t have to adjust your aim or be able to flick as precisely on controller, just get close and it locks on.

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Noob4Head t1_j5gpylf wrote

There will always be situations where a flick can be very advantageous but in in hindsight yes aim assist is more than capable to keep up with mouse and keyboard these days. (thanks to this little stupid thing called cross play)

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So-Avocado t1_j5ebcua wrote

Specific games only, for example Rainbow Six: Siege didn't have cross play for an incredibly long time and during that time it was controller only for console users, so people starting using specialized hardware to connect a keyboard and mouse. That's what cheating is, Ubisoft threatened and DID ban a lot of these cheaters because it was specifically stated that using 3rd party hardware to change your method of input is cheating. However, if the game allows you to just plug and play with a keyboard and mouse without the use of any special equipment or software, then it's perfectly fine, there's no reason to call that cheating. In fact, I believe in some games you can control what inputs you are matched up against, I believe warzone had that feature.

So don't go calling people cheaters just for using features that are available to everyone including you, it's like playing call of duty then saying everyone using a different weapon then yours is a cheater.

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