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Lol32112300 OP t1_j9gcy6x wrote

Do these two songs sound like they definitely are in the same genre? https://youtu.be/buincVFp-yM and https://youtu.be/JRK_in-dkRY

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zimmerdaon t1_j9gdloo wrote

They're both sample based electronic instrumentals in 4/4 time within a 10-15bpm range of eachother, both with spoken word poetry & an emphasis on simple kick drum patterns & bass frequencies.

It ain't rocket science.

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Lol32112300 OP t1_j9gdqbj wrote

Stop breathing has heavy autotune and has melodic parts, not just spoken word poetry.

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zimmerdaon t1_j9ge8iy wrote

Autotune is just an effect, just like reverb, delay, or compression. Thats like saying "metal is different because it has distortion." Thats not what makes it different.

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Lol32112300 OP t1_j9geiuu wrote

Thats cool and all but Carti used autotune as an instrument

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zimmerdaon t1_j9geyog wrote

Alright this is my last comment cos its clear you just don't know a lot about what defines a genre but are too stubborn to deal with that.

Using it "as an instrument" (which isnt even possible, because its literally an effect. You cant have autotune without something to use it on. Autotune doesnt generate a sound that didnt come from something else) it still doesn't make it a versatile genre. Hip hop traditionally doesnt even use instruments. Every other genre in the world besides electronic branches do. Thats not very versatile. This is a fundamentally ignorant point of view to have. Why do you think there isn't a single comment on this thread that agrees with you? It's all good, but its just incorrect. It has nothing to do with rap being cool or being worth listening to. It has everything to do with basic theory & music history. Go read about it. Or better, actually listen to more music.

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zimmerdaon t1_j9gddd1 wrote

Yeah, actually, they do. They sound like two subgenres of the same basic thing with negligible differences.

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Lol32112300 OP t1_j9gdj31 wrote

Good argument, Id say the same about all rock sub genres

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zimmerdaon t1_j9gdv2z wrote

Except you'd be wrong. They all use guitars & drums, sure. But prog rock operates in fucking wild time signatures, with sometimes multiple bridges per song, refrains, and really broad styles of guitar playing that oftentimes come from different continents.

Kraut-rock guitar playing has nothing to do with the delta southern blues guitar licks.

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