lordbub t1_ja087cb wrote on February 25, 2023 at 9:34 PM

Reply to comment by uSeeSizeThatChicken in Nas Says Hip-Hop Peers His Age Don’t Inspire Him to Make Music by bodamfuonua1

this also lets all talented artists record without needing to play the label game, which is why there's more good music coming out now than ever

piepants2001 t1_ja0d300 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 10:09 PM

Eh, that's debatable. There's something to be said about having a producer who will tell you to work on something or change a part in a song.

lordbub t1_ja0dcxq wrote on February 25, 2023 at 10:11 PM

well of course it's debatable, music is all subjective. my point is that no great artists now are being held back by the inaccessability of making music, which is definitely a positive. while a producer might help an artist, they might also alter that artist's vision for the worse. I'll take more bad music if it means there's also more good music.

piepants2001 t1_ja0f05r wrote on February 25, 2023 at 10:23 PM

>my point is that no great artists now are being held back by the inaccessability of making music

I'm going to assume you mean recording music and having it widely available to the general public, because nothing was holding anyone back from making music.

lordbub t1_ja0g6hc wrote on February 25, 2023 at 10:31 PM

well, a bit of both. you could record music yourself back in the day, but without the proper (very expensive) equipment, it was probably gonna sound pretty terrible. modern technology has made it so that you can make professional sounding songs for incredibly cheap or even free with equipment you probably already own, like a laptop. and then obviously distributing it and marketing has become much more available as well.

piepants2001 t1_ja0kdp4 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 11:02 PM

Right, but you're making it sound like you need to record music to make it, when tons of artists honed their craft by playing music live for years before they recorded anything.

lordbub t1_ja0ku4j wrote on February 25, 2023 at 11:05 PM

but i'm obviously talking about recorded music

piepants2001 t1_ja0mssa wrote on February 25, 2023 at 11:20 PM

Okay, but honing your craft by playing it in front of an audience or having a second opinion of a producer are both invaluable things that many self-produced artists don't have nowadays, which can and do produce mediocre results. You said that there is more good music nowadays, and I don't really agree with that statement. There is more music, but I wouldn't say that there is more "good" music, if anything I would say there is about the same amount of "good" music, with a LOT more mediocre stuff to wade through to find the "good" stuff.

lordbub t1_ja0nj4n wrote on February 25, 2023 at 11:25 PM

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that great music can just as easily come out of not having a producer who might mess with an artist's vision. some of my favorite albums are from artists who never played live beforehand. You can disagree about there being more good music now than before, and thats fine. But what i'm saying is that the availablity of making recorded music has resulted in more music coming out every week that I enjoy, and I'm fine with there being more bad music that comes out too. afterall, I never have to listen to the bad music again, and now I have the opportunity to listen to great music that might not have been able to be created that way 20+ years ago.