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[deleted] t1_jae87ac wrote

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Because_I_Cannot t1_jae9txs wrote

Ok, so your musical taste is obviously for more subdued singer-songwriter stuff and The Beatles aren't your jam. But they had released 6 or 7 albums, including Rubber Soul in 1965, by the time Cohen, Nick Drake and Velvet Underground released their first albums in 1967, with Van Zandt releasing his first album a year after that in '68. (I'm ignoring Coltrane, Davis and Simone because they don't belong in a pop/rock conversation)

To Say that your favorite artists, or the producers that they worked with, were not in anyway influenced by what The Beatles were doing is intentionally putting your head in the sand.

Look, I haven't listened to The Beatles with any regularity since I moved out of my parents' house over 20 years ago, but I also am not going to deny their influence on most of the music we listen to today

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Puzzleheaded_Bit9469 t1_jae9yl6 wrote

Check your dates on many of these. The Beatles formed in 1960, Cohen didn’t start recording until 67. Looks like when you play your music it’s time for everyone to call it a night. 😂

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[deleted] t1_jaeai22 wrote

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Puzzleheaded_Bit9469 t1_jaeb0bt wrote

Number one song on Billboard in 1964 doesn’t count then? Okey doke 🫤

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[deleted] t1_jaec599 wrote

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Puzzleheaded_Bit9469 t1_jaecyh6 wrote

So we’re now going by critically acclaimed, ok. I feel like Lucy’s moving the football on me. List their critically acclaimed songs. Now list all from the artists you mentioned. Multiply those songs by two. You probably come up with the same amount of songs from Revolver.

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Because_I_Cannot t1_jaedl43 wrote

>I feel like Lucy’s moving the football on me.

haha, I was about to tell OP that he's talking in circles. I think he's just being contrarian at this point

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DaftPump t1_jaee6y0 wrote

Don't waste your time. OP thinks the Beatles are over-rated. Big deal.

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Because_I_Cannot t1_jaeecl4 wrote

WTF are you even talking about at this point? Man, when your high wears off I hope you just delete this nonsense.

First of all, you HAVE to compare bands against their time period. And when you do, The Beatles absolutely come out on top, even 20 years after their last record. Take a look at this. It's a Wikipedia page, but it links to a book COMPILED BY CRITICS. In 1978, The Beatles held 4 of the top 10 spots on "Top 200 Albums" By 1987, they still had 3 of those spots.

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Because_I_Cannot t1_jaeh2lb wrote

If you think a music critic today is going to say that The Beatles are overrated, you're flat-out wrong. They're going to say what most of us are saying, which is that they are one of the most influential bands of all time

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TheVinylBird t1_jaee6aa wrote

they broke up in 69..they decided to stop being a touring boy band in 64. Started doing studio records in 65 with Rubber Soul and Revolver and hit their peak in 67 with Sgt Peppers.

Because their contract was structured like Elvis's with a movie/album deal..The record company didn't want to put any money into their productions, they just wanted something cheap and fast to churn out. So everything they did was through being creative. Acts like Hendrix had access to a lot better equipment. In fact Abbey Road, their last album, was the first album they recorded with an 8 track recorder instead of 4 track and was their first album released in stereo.

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DeadEyeMetal t1_jaenogs wrote

>Leonard cohen 🔥, nick drake 🔥, Velvet underground,🔥 miles Davis🔥, the kinks🔥, john coltrane,🔥 Nina Simone, townes van Zandt🔥

I pretty much agree with your fire rating for all the above. However, both your rating and mine are subjective and not based on a universal consensus of what makes good or interesting music. Different people value different things.

Furthermore, the parameters are very different. You're not comparing like with like. 'A Kind of Blue' can't be held up against 'Sgt Pepper' and a winner chosen. That's like comparing Usain Bolt and Pele and declaring Bolt better.

TBH, your post had L written all over it from the moment you hit send.

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