Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

goatAlmighty t1_jae9uf1 wrote

Reply to comment by shanerbaner16 in How many of you would agree with me on The Beatles being overrated by drums-please-fab-

Sorry, but I don't think your argument makes any sense.

That other bands would've figured out the same sound is a) not a given, and b) irrelevant. That would be like saying Nicola Tesla gets too much credit because eventually somebody else would've had the same ideas as he.

4

shanerbaner16 t1_jaea4bm wrote

I said "their" sound, aka their own sound. Not everyone just copied the Beatles. And rock n roll and pop we're around before the Beatles.

1

goatAlmighty t1_jaec58u wrote

Ah, I see what you mean, misunderstood you, so sorry for that.

I agree, had the Beatles not been there, somebody else would've stepped up. But if they would have had the same impact on culture and music recording technology is an unanswerable question.

2

TheVinylBird t1_jaegaas wrote

Well, everybody definitely lifted stuff from The Beatles. Like...everybody did copy The Beatles...from Hendrix, to the Rolling Stones, to Pink Floyd, to Bob Dylan.

The only other band that had a similar effect was The Band with their album Music from Big Pink. After that Clapton and George Harrison and loads of others were trying to make albums that sounded like that.

1

shanerbaner16 t1_jaeh75p wrote

Those bands you listed were definitely not trying to copy the Beatles lol. Hendrix and the stones were obsessed with old blues artists. Bob Dylan was more into country and folk. And pink Floyd made psychedelic music early on and we're also inspired by blues music. It's even how they came up with their name.

1

TheVinylBird t1_jaei92j wrote

Where did Hendrix get backwards recording from? The Rolling Stones created their whole marketing campaign as being "the bad boy version of The Beatles". Bob Dylan went electric because of The Beatles. This is all stuff that is easily verifiable.

Also...fun fact, Linda McCartney discovered Jimi Hendrix and Paul McCartney was the one that recommended Hendrix for The Monterrey Pop Festival where Hendrix got his break through in the U.S.

1

shanerbaner16 t1_jaeir17 wrote

I'm not saying the Beatles had zero influence. Obviously they had a lot. My original comment was just about how I think they get too much credit and other bands would've been successful with or without them. It's not any deeper than that. And purely from a musical perspective, all the artists you listed had bigger influences than the Beatles. Easily verifiable

0

TheVinylBird t1_jaejn3y wrote

Also if you want to get into theory. Hendrix's famous E7#9 chord which he used over and over again was first used by The Beatles in The Taxman. George Harrison's use of the Dorian mode, from indian influence, on The Taxman solo was repeated just months later on Hendrix's Purple Haze solo...along with the E7#9 chord

1

shanerbaner16 t1_jaejrn3 wrote

Very interesting but it doesn't change anything about my opinion

0