Submitted by chelseaisop t3_yet69g in Music

I feel like master of puppets doesn't qualify as metal and is instead just used by guitar beginners who want to play 'metal'. Metalica overall for me doesn't qualify as a metal band rather just being a band which makes an album on the genre which is popular at that time. I'd rather listen to judas priest or Pantera if I want to hear some metal. Opinions?

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amorningofsleep t1_itzrlir wrote

> I feel like master of puppets doesn't qualify as metal

Lol what? No, it is definitely a metal album.

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chelseaisop OP t1_itzsg8w wrote

ok

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amorningofsleep t1_itzt9tu wrote

Saying it isn't a metal record is like holding an orange, looking at it, smelling it, tasting it, and saying "Nope, that's definitely an old penny I just found on the ground".

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HawkWestAU t1_itzqmc9 wrote

Metallica from Kill ‘em All up to …And Justice for All were Thrash Metal, from Metallica in 1991 up to now I’d class as Hard Rock, Heavy Metal.

Pantera, used to be considered Glam Metal, many people think Cowboys from Hell is their first album but it isn’t, it’s Metal Magic from 1983, they released another 3 I think before Cowboys from Hell.

Master of Puppets is definitely a Metal album.

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chelseaisop OP t1_itzqxbs wrote

but a very basic one at that

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HawkWestAU t1_itzr4sc wrote

Master of Puppets is a brilliant album.

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chelseaisop OP t1_itzr971 wrote

yep certainly but im just saying a very basic metal album

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chelseaisop OP t1_itzrdvg wrote

its like eminem getting into the rock nd roll hall of fame

Obviously a very good rapper but certainly very out of place

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Excellent_Support_51 t1_iu1a5b9 wrote

No, but what you're saying is the same as calling Shakespeare, The Beatles, or any other seminal groups cliché simply because many people have used their work as a blueprint over the years. Just take the L.

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blowbyblowtrumpet t1_iu0akm9 wrote

If Metallica don't count as metal then Miles Davis doesn't count as Jazz and Dolly Parten doesn't count as Country. Get outta here.

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Wonderful_Ad3017 t1_itzt6re wrote

IMO you have to take into account the times these albums were made. Metallica may not have invented metal but they changed it (one can argue if they changed it for better or worse). When Master of Puppets was released it was heavy metal and it remains a classic metal album in my mind. They’re later stuff, everything after and justice…goes pretty main stream. The video for One put them over in the mtv pop world and changed how Metallica was perceived, how they acted, and how they wrote music.

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BubbleBlowing2xBaby t1_iu0nhk3 wrote

your opinion and reasoning are bad and you should feel bad.

think before you type before you post bullshit.

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WokSmith t1_iu342o1 wrote

It's your right to be completely wrong, but please tell us all as to what you think real metal is.

This should be interesting to say the very least.

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dr-dog69 t1_iu0hbno wrote

Are you like 16 years old or something?

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sorengray t1_iu1j1v6 wrote

You must be trolling. As a metalhead kid from the 80s who grew up on Priest, Maiden, AC/DC... I can tell you you are 100% wrong. Metallica is metal. They were so metal that when they first came out, it was scary to listen to them, like terrifyingly exciting. And that's a key component of metal. Now you could argue their Black Album is Hard Rock not metal, but that's about it. But Master Of Puppets is a heavy metal masterpiece. Full stop.

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quickdecide- t1_iu0gia1 wrote

It's not metal, it's thrash metal

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Nameless_Ghoultarist t1_iu3cgp4 wrote

Show me an intermediate guitar player who can play the entire song down stroked like James plays it. Beginners can’t even get past the intro riff because the amount of required down stroking kills their arm. If a song has so much down stroking in it that even intermediate players still can’t play it properly, then that in itself is metal.

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