It pains me to say it, but I've outgrown the Red Hot Chili Peppers and think they really suck now

Submitted by Mdizzle29 t3_yipyug in Music

The Red Hot Chili Peppers suck now, and I wish people listened to their old stuff more because it’s so much better. Prior to Blood Sugar Sex Magik, I was heavily into RHCP. First Freaky Styley, then Uplift Mofo Party Plan then Mother’s Milk...Three solid records. The band was fun, and dumb and I was young.

But I still try to listen to their new stuff. They had an album that just came out Dream Canteen something something. Spotify brought it to my attention -"Hey! Hey you! try this new album! We think you'll like it!" I listened to it, and it was just...lazy.

Sample lyrics from the very first song:

Well, I'm an animal

Somethin' like a cannibal

I'm very flammable

And partially programmable!

I felt like maybe one of Flea's kids wrote this at like 9 years old or something? I was just embarrassed for them. Then they had a song called Eddie about Eddie Van Halen and it was like they read Van Halen's wikipedia page.

Please don't remember me for what I did with David

You know I'm talkin' David Lee, am I ready?

Please don't remember me for what I did last night,

oh...I guess I played a Flying V.

Then a lifeless, pointless Frusciante guitar solo. Some of his laziest work.

Kiedis stopped rapping as much but his voice is mediocre with little range. His lyrics are bush league. Flea still slaps his bass guitars, apparently not having outgrown it.

And there is great new music being made nowadays (I loved Turnstiles "GLOW ON" for example) so it's not just a case of me getting older.

Sadly, RHCP sucks now.

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Jmart814 t1_iujxday wrote

Also, taking Anthony serious lyrically is your own fault. It's how they've always been lol

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Tsrdrum t1_iukbo6b wrote

Anthony Kiedis’s lyrics have always been terrible. I guess this time they were bad enough that fans noticed.

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chimchooree t1_iujwajz wrote

This is what Mike Patton was trying to tell everyone!

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DomesticApe23 t1_iuk8btc wrote

?

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chimchooree t1_iuk8owl wrote

"The surreal feud between Anthony Kiedis and Mike Patton"

"Why Anthony Kiedis hates Faith No More's Mike Patton"

"The Story Of The Rivalry Between Anthony Kiedis And Faith No More’s Mike Patton"

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DomesticApe23 t1_iuk9avt wrote

Wow, never heard of that. Fuck Anthony Kiedis. Mr Bungle rules.

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chimchooree t1_iuka839 wrote

You might like this video of Neil Hamburger opening for Faith No More, in like '99.

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DomesticApe23 t1_iukb8y0 wrote

Haha I saw Neil Hamburger open for Mr Bungle around then. It's probably the same act, is it 45 minutes of Anthony Kiedis heroin jokes? By the end of it the crowd was losing their minds, people throwing shit. And Hamburger up there clearing his throat like a jackass. It was glorious.

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Vorsehung t1_iuk5rnv wrote

Honestly I didn't realize RHCP had songs other than: Californication, Snow, Dani California, Otherside, Under the Bridge, Can't Stop and By The Way. /s

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ExternalPiglet1 t1_iujyhed wrote

Hang on, you didn't get anything from that guitar solo in Eddie?

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Mdizzle29 OP t1_iuk2cb8 wrote

Well, I don't know, maybe I expected some virtuosity, maybe an homage to an Van Halen solo, something. It was just like a solo that he played and held certain notes. Not very interesting in my book, and yes, lazy.

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GuitarsCadillacsEtc t1_iukaruq wrote

RHCP is a fun party band. If you want lyrical depth (beyond sex, drugs, and rock and roll), you'll have to find it somewhere else.

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chimchooree t1_iujw5a1 wrote

Welcome to 1995.

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DevinBelow t1_iujwoy8 wrote

Yep. I really feel like One Hot Minute was the last RHCP album that did anything for me.

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rickderp t1_iujxn9h wrote

Up to One Hot Minute was great, BSSM is one of the best albums ever. It started going downhill at Californication and they were awful for 25 years.

But I really do love the album they released at the start of this year, Unlimited Love. It has a more early 90's feel to it. John is back, Flea & Chad are tight and Anthony is....Anthony. His singing always sucked and his lyrics are pretty awful but on that album he does a bit more of his rapping thing and it sounds so much better than the previous 25 years of shit.

Not loving the newest album though. But we don't have to like everything every band releases. Just listen to the stuff you love.

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BladeOfPelor t1_iuk4fnn wrote

Did you listen to the whole album? Carry Me Home, Fake As Fuck, Bella, Reach Out, My Cigarette, Roulette, The Drummer….so many masterpieces on it. I love the use of sax. I completely disagree with your take.

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Jmart814 t1_iujx8hx wrote

Sadly, RHCP does not suck. To each their own, but these last two albums are great.

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sjwilkinson t1_iujvuvb wrote

Yeah not really deep lyrically, wasn't a major fan and wouldn't shell out money for a ticket but they did have a few good grooves they milked the shit out of

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cellenium125 t1_iujwqfk wrote

You didn't outgrow them, they just aren't as good as they used to be

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[deleted] t1_iujwy7g wrote

I agree 100%. I will always have a soft spot for their early stuff (84-91) as I grew up listening to it, but everything I’ve heard from them since has been pretty awful. The last album from them I listened to in it’s entirety was ‘Stadium Arcadium’ and I absolutely hated it.

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BrassOwlRing t1_iuk39f1 wrote

I'm feeling this. I used to think they were the shit when I was in high school and college, then the magic kind of wore off and now they just bug the hell out of me.

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Nerje t1_iuk79s5 wrote

Hey.

I still go straight to Mother's Milk and barely care about anything else anyway

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esp735 t1_iukaqib wrote

Now you know how we all felt when One Hot Minute came out.

My dream is to sit down with Flea and say, Hey man... just do a solo album under a pseudonym. You can do better!

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Competitive_Vast9832 t1_iujxiu9 wrote

That happens as you get older and realise that no one's all that.

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Mdizzle29 OP t1_iuk2ib2 wrote

Well I still love the other bands of my youth like Bad Brains, Fugazi, Janes Addiction. But then again, none of them are still trying to put out new music.

I did hear the latest album from a band called "Goose" and I gotta say that was pretty great.

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GrooseandGoot t1_iujyf5m wrote

They were always bad. They were always bland. You just grew up.

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Jmart814 t1_iujzauq wrote

Bland? Far from it lol

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3BeanBurrito t1_iuk71er wrote

Yeah, I don't get that comment. If you never liked them, fine. To each their own. But bland?

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BossWu52 t1_iuk441c wrote

They haven't been good since soul to squeeze

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RoninRobot t1_iuk663t wrote

I lost interest in the early 2ks when I finally figured out EVERY song is about heroin. I’m serious. Every one except Give It Away.

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PostyMcPosterson t1_iuk9cqj wrote

Hot Take? Josh > John for 2010 - 2020’s RHCP.

I really liked the balance of what he brought to the table for a more mature feeling to their albums. I still don’t like how they just cast him aside for what seems like a failed attempt at capturing the old magic.

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minor_thing2022 t1_iuk00d1 wrote

No no friend, I think they outgrew you

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Mdizzle29 OP t1_iuk24sc wrote

You think? What do you like about the lyrics I posted, or Anthony Kiedis' weak singing voice? Is that quality to you?

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minor_thing2022 t1_iuk2v6h wrote

Also, you know Anthony is almost 60 right? You look that good and sing even remotely as well in your 60's and I'll bbq my shoe and eat it on camera

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Mdizzle29 OP t1_iuk51hh wrote

I mean, lots of rock singers have sung really well into and past their 60’s. Jagger, Bowie, Tyler, Young. Kurdish couldn’t sing before this age but he rapped more so I guess that hid his awful voice.

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minor_thing2022 t1_iuk2j96 wrote

You called John's solo's "lifeless". Go back to listening to some Cardi B bud and we can get back to listening to music with soul in it

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Mdizzle29 OP t1_iuk4hmm wrote

I mean, I literally play jazz..I feel like I know what a decent solo is at this point. If you think that’s it, then god bless.

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minor_thing2022 t1_iuk8w1a wrote

To each their own I guess, my apologies for coming across confrontational. Jazz music does nothing for me, although my experience with it is slim and John's my favorite guitar player so I must defend my boy! What is a Jazz band you recommend I check out to help expand my horizons?

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Mdizzle29 OP t1_iuka4ma wrote

No worries man, it took me many years to appreciate jazz.

A great place to start is the album “Kind of Blue” by Miles Davis. I tend to like the bebop piano style so pianists like Oscar Peterson, Red Garland, Benny Green, and Dave Brubeck are up my alley. Then you get to denser stuff like Thelonius Monk and Chick Corea, that’s pretty advanced jazz.

And that’s ok if it’s not up your alley, like I said it took for me playing it and really trying to learn jazz piano that got me into it.

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minor_thing2022 t1_iukahq4 wrote

Miles Davis, now there's a name I at least know of. I'll add a few songs by those names to my new music list. I appreciate you taking the time, who knows, I could be a jazz guy yet

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chimchooree t1_iuk6dq3 wrote

Just because someone finds a guitar solo mediocre, it means they must listen to Cardi B?

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minor_thing2022 t1_iuk91w7 wrote

Yeah...confrontational on my part. My bad, got worked up trying to defend my boy and was a dick

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Ridin_giants t1_iujyq8c wrote

Still really love them, however, as a fifty-something, I totally see how Nirvana and Sonic Youth were overrated. Sounds like a bunch of noise now and I use to love them. #oldlady

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Mdizzle29 OP t1_iujzshb wrote

I still have Sonic Youth on my rotation and their best moments are still really sublime. While some of it sounds like noise, take Tunic (song for Karen) and tell me that isn't still great?

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