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Rporrangel OP t1_iuiqoih wrote

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Karl_Marx_ t1_iuitng0 wrote

Lyrics are kind of rapey and incel driven. That could push a woman away alone.

I'm not a fan of your voice, but I do see the idea you are going with the music, not terrible, but yeah the lyrics are questionable.

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Rporrangel OP t1_iuiw6fi wrote

Wow never thought they were incel driven. Maybe cause I see this song as a single one but part of an upcoming album, if it makes sense but I’m narrating a story in the other songs, about a guy that life and relationships leads him to that life and kind of resentment to that person.

But I think people should separate the artist character, from the real person. But I get your point. Thanks

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sadbalm t1_iujbkb7 wrote

but she has no idea if these are your views on women in general or if it’s a “character” you’re doing. i’ll be honest, the lyrics alone read as a huge red flag to potential partners…

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Rporrangel OP t1_iujlbsx wrote

Totally agree. They do read like a huuuuuge red flag. And all my lyrics are similar, because that is the character I’m trying to build. And yeah it is a problem because people will often think that is how someone thinks or stands about relationships/women/drug abuse/alcoholism lifestyle etc.

Which opens a new question. Shall we judge an artist real life by its work? Keeping in mind that most songs are a fictional work.

The second question would be: Shall lyrics stay honest with no filters or shall we sugarcoat them (no pun intended) to fit in with nowadays society’s behaviour trends?

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sadbalm t1_iujm70y wrote

i don’t think misogyny and addiction make a fun or acceptable character to put on. if this is truly not how you think and view the world, why would u ask the second question? it seems very contrary to say “this is completely not me… but why should i have to sugarcoat my truth to fit in with society?” i do judge artists by what they put in their work. especially when they are expressing bigotry through it, character or not. i think you’ve got your answer as to why this woman stopped responding— you scared her off with your musical “character” and she feels uncomfortable with what you’ve expressed through your music.

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Rporrangel OP t1_iujqel8 wrote

So basically you are saying “I prefer listening to vanilla music, because those artists are that way in real life cause their work defines them?”

Ex: Drake Bell has some lovely lyrics… and well don’t have to tell you the rest of the story. Jared Leto Katy Perry

A lot of artists and famous people have proven that it’s so easy to preach about love and act differently.

I respect your wee opinion but definitely do not agree with you at all.

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sadbalm t1_iujrfbx wrote

no, i didn’t say any of that. that’s a really inaccurate paraphrasing of my points. let me simplify:

•misogyny is not cool, interesting, or artistic

•misogyny is not an appealing character to put on

•why would you write these lyrics if you’re not like, an incel?

•you asked why she stopped replying after you sent her this crap, and i told you. you don’t have to agree or disagree. i can almost guarantee this is why she doesn’t talk to you anymore.

any questions?

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Rporrangel OP t1_iujsjly wrote

Actually she did and we are having a wee lovely conversation now.

I appreciate your opinion tho.

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heinekenchugger t1_iuk9fa8 wrote

It's good but lyrically it may have left her wondering what you meant by it.

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