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baconblowandhoes OP t1_ityh7ts wrote

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You had me at the beginning and kinda lost me in the end…

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[deleted] t1_ityhhut wrote

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baconblowandhoes OP t1_ityhlmb wrote

I mean even still, you don’t care at all?

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[deleted] t1_ityigfy wrote

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FoxJonesMusic t1_itykwnb wrote

My guy with every whataboutism.

Two points:

John Lennon was an asshole. Kanye West is an asshole.

You can listen to anything you want. There you go.

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[deleted] t1_itymukt wrote

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FoxJonesMusic t1_itymywm wrote

There is no hypocrisy. Saying John Lennon is an asshole isn’t groundbreaking at all.

You’re out here trying to change the subject because you’re a Ye Stan plain and simple.

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[deleted] t1_ityn3x9 wrote

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FoxJonesMusic t1_ityn7vg wrote

Then what the fuck is your point?

Separate the art from the music?

If that’s all you are saying - youve added nothing to the conversation save for a platitude with a personal thing for Lennon.

There is no double standard.

People bash Lennon all the time. They don’t generally do it on Kanye posts lest they have a personal thing with Lennon.

Weird.

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[deleted] t1_itynel3 wrote

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as_it_was_written t1_itypjs2 wrote

>Seeing as Lennon suffered no financial consequences for his actions and nobody stopped listening to The Beatles upon that information getting out, yet people are advocating for all above in case of Kanye, there is.

That's not a double standard. It's about half a century of cultural changes.

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as_it_was_written t1_ityqhtm wrote

He's been dead over 40 years. Nobody is supporting him financially by listening to his music. That's very much relevant to the conversation.

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FoxJonesMusic t1_itynksg wrote

I understood your rambling about how the Beatles weren’t cancelled but Kanye was.

Then I read your personal beef with Lennon which is common as fuck.

Then I noted your complete lack of logic and forethought between the two decades/eras that you are comparing as if they are not apples and fucking oranges.

Bunch of drivel that you are not trying to pass as something to be misunderstood.

Ok dude.

Sure.

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someuseername t1_itzzmno wrote

Well, you do make a pretty unassimilated comparison. Perhaps you’re not completely up to date in terms of the things Kanye is saying, and the implications it can have on the lives of an incredibly large amount of people, and also the gravity of the impact, which both are on a completely different scale than the John Lennon comparison.

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someuseername t1_iu0zamf wrote

I really think you’re underestimating the severity of the situation. Neonazis are coming out in support of Kanye West, the holocaust museum invited him over, when he said no, they’ve received an incredible amount of deaththreats, conservatives use him as a means of getting people to start believing in their borderline nazi/fascist rhetoric. Please don’t act like this is nothing, this is fucking horrible.

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someuseername t1_iu1959q wrote

If you follow American online political discourse you know that Kanye west has been weaponized by the far-right as a useful idiot for their own propaganda, what better way to forward nazi rhetoric than a black guy going after jews?

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someuseername t1_iu1c8cf wrote

Well it depends, if his literary works (Knut Hamsun) have been a foundation for people becoming nazi sympathizers, perhaps a bit more moral consciousness is in place. About Kanye, It’s difficult, there have been so many instances where he’s just borderline denying holocaust, or casually whataboutisming away from it, and so many other literal insane shit he’s said in the past couple weeks, that I think, even him having an manic episode, does not mean he’s not to be blamed for anything. This is such a big event, where all types of lines are being crossed, which emboldens neonazi’s, fascists and white supremacists in their ability to cross lines they weren’t able before. It’s, at least for me, impossible to deconnect his music from his behavior lately, since music is art, which is expression, which in turn is an extension of a person. But hey, each to their own of course.

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