ParisHiltonIsDope t1_ixxa1iu wrote on November 27, 2022 at 2:30 AM

Yeah, but here's the thing. I can voice my anger and frustration at Ticketmaster and that'll go about as far as the people at my Thanksgiving table.

Large artists like Blink, Taylor Swift, the Weeknd, Dua Lipa, Bad Bunny, Elton John, Katy Perry, etc. they have a large platform with REAL influence on millions of people. Their voice and their opinion can/will go a lot farther then mine. They have the option and the ability to make their voices heard on behalf of the fans that are dropping entire paychecks to see them. They have the option to make considerable changes yet most of them choose to just sit back and collect their checks.

Your argument that "it is what it is" is a depressing and sad approach to the ordeal. I hope things in your life are going well though.

RedditorNumber679260 OP t1_ixxe1ii wrote on November 27, 2022 at 3:04 AM

Yes but the ARTISTS TRIED and FAILED.

PEARL JAM TESTIFIED To Congress in the 90’s and boycotted them for a decade when they were THE TOP ACT.

TAYLOR, McCaRTNEY, The STONES. JIMI HENDRIX could rise from the dead and he’d still need to play a Ticketmaster venue or not play at all.

Every single artist (AND SPORTS TEAM) would need to stop touring and playing. The chances of that happening?

Zero. Touring is the only way artists make money now.

^ This is my point of my post. The casual concert goer doesn’t know just how much control Ticketmaster has over the artists.

ParisHiltonIsDope t1_ixxk5t6 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 3:56 AM

Oh my God dude, your take is about as flat in two-dimensional as the people you're criticizing. There's literally no nuance to your argument whatsoever.

Starting with previous attempts. You say it like it's plural, but it was just Pearl jam That went to Congress. Also, Pearl jam in the '90s was a very different environment then Taylor Swift in 2022. Pearl jam would have been taken as seriously as Maroon 5 would be at Congress. They attract a little attention, but they didn't have nearly the amount of sway that someone like Taylor Swift would. Even blink-182 is bigger now than Pearl jam at The prime.

People in the '90s also did not have access to the same level of information about Ticketmaster as they do now. Pearl jam's voice wasn't amplified as much because they didn't have a hoard of fans that were following every minute of the debacle. They didn't have TikTok to keep reiterating what a shitshow. And this wasn't exactly a high priority ticket for politicians.

I'm not saying the point of your post is wrong per your argument. You are right in saying that's how things work right now. But it's also very nihilistic to say there's no point in calling for change just because a rock band tried to talk to stuffy old politicians about concerts three decades ago.

RedditorNumber679260 OP t1_ixxvqg6 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 5:51 AM

Taylor. Has. Zero. Sway.

YES SHE IS MICHAEL JACKSON LEVEL.

But if she said “I’m not gonna tour until Congress does something!” like Pearl Jam did?

< Crickets >

Ticketmaster would be like…. “Okay, then don’t make money… the venue is open for these dates. Call me, or not. Don’t care. We make enough on Football.”

Congress would be like “Okay. My kids like you…. But wait this lobbyist is still paying me to not care.”

Last- You think Congress is on TIK TOK??? And Pearl Jam shows STILL easily cost / sell out just as fast Blink does. (I had SHIT tickets for PJ at MSG that we’re going for $800 a piece) I don’t think you’re even old enough to remember buying tickets in the 90’s.