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[deleted] t1_j27o160 wrote

>I’m a musician trying to get my gigging bands out of my local area, but I’m struggling to build any social media following.

That is not important. You will get that "FoLlOwInG" when you do gigs.

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>It seems like social media followers is all venues and bookers care about.

No they are not, they want to sell tickets and drinks because they need to break even, so why wouldn't a venue book a school band who plays shitty nirvana covers? Because they don't bring in attendee's thats why... Maybe you should ask the venue if it is possible to be opener for an other band who plays the same genre; that is how you start, there is no other way. Unless you get lucky and go viral on the internets; but those careers are mostly short lived.

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>How can I tell if the issue is one of operator error (not posting the right way, not tagging correctly, not the right ads, etc) verses one of making music people don’t want?

You can't, you are in the beginner stage of the music industry; nobody except for your friends probably knows your band. Do opener gigs and you will gain momentum.

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kingjaffejaffar OP t1_j28kkdv wrote

The problem is I’m not really a beginner. One band has been around for 8 years, the other just one, but I have been gigging consistently for 13 years. One of those bands got some good opening slots like for Adelitas Way. Never cracked 800 followers on Instagram.

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[deleted] t1_j28qeer wrote

Ok something is clearly not going the right way; or you do something that only appeals to a small audience (nothing wrong with that, but you want more I guess) or you are simply not "intresting".

Maybe you should fix your "act" or start doing something that appeals to a lot of people (which is eventually fixing your act).

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27stsp wrote

That’s a bit harsh, who pissed in your cheerios?? You don’t need to fucking rip someone’s gizzards out and talk shit because you think they are new. Judging from your icon you must be bitter about “that knee injury” you got back in highschool that kept you from “the majors”.

Someone is asking for help and you come in here shooting off at the mouth. You must have a metric fuck ton of friends. /s

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[deleted] t1_j27u6u2 wrote

I was not a football player in high school, I am just giving him genuine advice on how to get a live gig. I have + 10 years of experience in the music industry as a professional touring musician, sound engineer and producer.

You take it way to personal.

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27u8p1 wrote

Links or you are full of it

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27ulws wrote

Btw I am in no way affiliated with OP, I just see someone trying to crush “rookies”, and if you have any success someone had to help you as well. That’s why I’m getting on your case re-read what you said in your original response.

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[deleted] t1_j27x18r wrote

I am not crushing rookies; if you can't take criticism or "harsh" words you don't belong in the music/show bizz anyway, besides that I don't need to prove some random anonymous person on reddit anything about my musical career.

You can take my advice and start as an "opening act" for bigger bands, or you could leave it and do nothing; I dont care.

Edit: Yes I got help by someone who was already inside the industry, they give me the most valuable advice I've ever had, you know what it was?

JUST DO IT AND GO FOR IT!

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27x3vy wrote

So proud of your success, you are full of shit bro

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[deleted] t1_j27xdtm wrote

Whateverthefuck ever dude, take it or leave it.

see ya

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27xgag wrote

I don’t need that advice. I’m here to help. 😉

Edit: and if you were worth your salt you can spot holes in some of the shit I said to you in response to your “big titles” 10 years experiences , you did it for 6 months 9.5 years ago.

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27wxsf wrote

I’m assuming you must be digging through your pile of gold and platinum records to get your credentials. You know because after 10+ years surely you would be proud of your success not putting “shitty nirvana highschool covers” OP actually writes there own music, but you were too busy mouthing off to realize that.

You are the type of audio engineer who uses phantom power on a ribbon mic.

You are the type of producer who only knows tabs, because learning music theory is “a waste of time”.

You must be in Sesac, because all of the other plebeians are either with ascap or bmi.

You are the type of musician who “doesn’t need to practice.”

I bet you have no idea what any of that means^

😂😂😂😂

Have a good night “Professional”

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[deleted] t1_j27xs01 wrote

You are funny haha, I had a laugh, ty.

You know that "shitty nirvana highschool covers" was methaphorical and not personal in anyway to the OP?

Do you actually have any signs of intelligence or are you just a jobless hoodrat who is bashing everyone who doesn't agree? I don't care anyway, you are going nowhere buddy...

You are the stereotype of a failed angy musician.

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27xu62 wrote

You know a Royer is a ribbon mic that uses phantom power right?

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27xwci wrote

And it’s one of the only ones that needs it, most others ones fry whenever you turn on phantom power on the pre-amp

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[deleted] t1_j27xy45 wrote

Take your meds kid

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27y0l1 wrote

Lol sounds like you can’t really back your bullshit up. Go fucking write a song you fucking wannabe

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[deleted] t1_j27z7te wrote

You start talking in thin air about mic's which is completely offtopic, you swear a lot and then say I cannot back myself up? For what should I back myself up for and unveil my anonymity for such a dangerous psychopath like you? I got nothing to prove to you....

I am starting to think you are schizophrenic or something.

Do you actually understand that nobody want's to work with people like you?

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27zb6p wrote

You said you were an audio engineer….. wouldn’t microphones be relevant to that portion of the conversation?

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27ze7b wrote

You said called me a hoodrat which indicates that you have a bias. Don’t you know no one wants to work with a racist?

Edit: and if you were really in the industry the way you approached a new comer, you would think you’d realize no one works with dickheads.

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j27zxrb wrote

You have 10 more minutes of my time and then you aren’t getting anything else from me so make it count.

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DiaDollasignPora t1_j280t4e wrote

Okay here is some advice from person to person.

For someone who says “You shouldn’t be in show biz if you can’t handle harsh words.” Who immediately accuses someone of being a psycho for swearing…. You need to stop being a dick to people if you can’t handle people doing the same to you. No one made any threats.

If you are going to walk around saying you are a big success in music, it’s only natural people ask you for proof. anybody can say anything

I was testing you and you failed. Maybe you did it in the 70’s or something but you clearly haven’t been anywhere near a recording studio in decades. And Microphones are super relevant if you are an audio engineer whether it’s a studio engineer or live sound.

All you did was talk shit when you got called out which is how someone who is lying responds. Everyone wants to be a musician until you have to do musician shit.

I hope you get your head out of your ass, and if you are such a big success, nothing I am saying should bother you at all.

Be nice and people will do the same.

Later!

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[deleted] t1_j283egy wrote

What ever kid, go fuck yourself ok? I've never said I was a big succes only that I got +- 10 years of experience in the bizz, that is something else.

You are just looking for a fight, people like you are called troublemakers.

I won't reply anymore on your stupid shit so spare yourself the energy from replying ok, it won;t be read.

Goodbye and goodriddance.

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