I’d like to see the articles about the pop stars first.

Rap is largely demonized BECAUSE of the misogyny but it is also considered the norm within the industry. It's not that people don't talk about it lol. They talk circles around the subject but what are they gonna do, publicly outrage? They'll do it again...and again...and again cus it's what they do, they don't give a damn, and it's been accepted within the industry. People who make different sorts of music may receive backlash but that's because you're deviating from the norm for that genre. It'll die down as it always does but it will continue be taboo unless people start to normalize it.

As a deep lover of hip hop, especially 90’s New York style, it’s also incredibly interesting with how many people can write oppressive lyrics about any subject really, while also claiming to be the oppressed.

The culture is wild. Not all of it is this way, but it’s just so ironic to see a collective group of individuals from very specific walks of life sing battle cries about racism and oppression and then DIRECTLY write about those topics directed at other groups of minorities and women.

Again, not all of hip hop is like this, but the main culture around it surely is.

People did criticize rap for that stuff for a long time, but the loudest voices that did were more conservative/religious types. Modern critics don't want to align or associate their brand of criticism with that type of social critic.

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Ok, nevermind. I was just curious over something that I’ve perceived over the years. I didn’t make the post to debate people who are either pretending to not know what I’m talking about or are just willfully ignorant. I’m out because it’s just exhausting.

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Because for fans of the genre of rap you are describing, the misogyny is part of the appeal, part of the brand. Along with guns, drugs, etc. It stems from 90s gangster rap, which in its purest form described the life experiences of individuals who grew up in crime riddled, impoverished inner city areas where these themes were prevalent in every day life. In the late 90s/ early 00s the music began to glamorize the lifestyle and this is the stuff todays rappers grew up listening to.

That is all to say, the people who this music speaks to most are not the type to call for the “cancellation” over socially inappropriate lyrical content.

On the other hand, fans of John Meyer tend to shade a little more on the suburban side of society. This demographic is more likely to be socially liberal or at least present as such and therefore the artists they listen to will face more scrutiny.

You don’t have to look far to find people calling out rap for its lyrics. That’s been happening since rap existed. Those people don’t listen to rap, though.

TLDR: “career ending” cancellations only happen when the people doing the boycotting are the same people spending money on the music.

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To put it simply, that kind of rap music attracts an audience that doesn’t care in the first place. It’s a genre that’s rooted in being braggadocious and getting a reaction out of people. Not saying it’s wrong or right, but that’s just who consumes hip hop. There’s no precedent for, let’s say, car seat headrest to call women bitches or anything like that, it’s not the image that got them popular in the first place.

Also, like others have said, rap has been under fire for literally 30 years from feminist groups. Tipper Gore and the PMRC literally tried to get 2 Live Crew banned from American retailers over misogynistic lyrics. I can remember being in middle school and having several moms demand Eminem was banned from the school because of songs like “kill you” Those guys have had to answer for their art since the beginning

T.I.

Akon

Kanye West

50 Cent

21 Savage

ASAP Rocky

DJ Khaled

Kodak Black

I excluded articles about song lyrics, of which there are many.

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it's very important to remember that as a successful rapper, you will, in fact, encounter all kinds of women displaying behaviors that are oppositional to traditional views of women or what would usually be defined as "a lady"

i've seen it

two things can be true

women can be smart, demure, composed, elegant and many other adjectives

and they can also not

just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist

First rule of getting away with it is - Be a man.

Second rule is - Don't be a woman, that makes you a bitch.

There can be exceptions but those are the rules.

Music history is full of women getting shafted in a man's world. Courtney Love & Madonna are a couple of prime examples.

Courtney got blamed for Kurt losing his head and then got shafted again for speaking out against Harvey Weinstein (years ago when her acting career was on the rise)

Madonna has always been made to look like a bitch for the crime of being outspoken.

If Either one had been a man they would be rock gods!

Yah but also indie artists ain’t getting 25 to life off lyrics so it’s not like there lyrics ain’t being called out but just the more evil shit ps also sometimes they do but it seems to be if the radio likes them or not I know a load of Aussie rappers got banned from radio stations cos of lyrics like that but us where getting played and love from the radio so it like everything else in mainstream music is fucked

You know why.

You literally just made this entire scenario up in your head lol

>While rappers on the other hand get ignored by the mainstream for saying the most off the wall shit imaginable about women.

Such as...?