Nwk_NJ t1_jae9edb wrote
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White wash? Several young well-off professionals of color...but ok. And yeah Philly is an environmental beacon lmao.
sutisuc t1_jae9ndj wrote
Does Philly have four superfund sites in it along with multiple active polluters, including a trash incinerator, a stones throw from its most densely populated neighborhood in the city? Philly has a multitude of issues but that’s actually reflected in the cost of living there, unlike in Newark where you are paying New York metro area premixed for a very lacking urban experience
Nwk_NJ t1_jaeam7f wrote
I mean, I'd bet it does tbh lol.
And again, you're simply not getting it...what is a 15 minute train ride from Philly? That region is cheaper, period. It's not like oh Philly has crime so let's keep prices low, but the south jersey suburbs cost as much as Montclair bc of equal amentities inside the town, in a vacuum...no...its our suburbs are more pricey than Philly's, Newark is more pricey than similar parts of Philly, and NY at its apex is more pricey than downtown Philly, etc etc. It's not a reflection of Philly issues, it's that Philly is not located in such a desirable region the way Newark is. Newark again, is not in a vacuum. It's still affordable for the region precisely bc of the issues you point out, but its gonna have higher prices due to factors like the region ya know? Also, as it gets more amenities etc, it goes up in price. Hence this house...go literally 10 mins up Bloomfield Ave and that same house is 1.5-2 million.
You complain about artificial inflationary prices...how about artificial deflation? Should Newark stay cheaper than a place up the sidewalk just bc an imaginary border and sign that says "welcome to south orange" is there? Seems silly. Just as silly as pretending the border exists so as to deny people educational opportunities and etc.
sutisuc t1_jaeb12s wrote
Unless you have a source to back it up then it does not. Feel free to google and get back to me though. If you need any links showing just how badly polluted the ironbound is let me know.
You don’t need a 15 minute train ride to a better city if you can get whatever you need in the city that you already live in.
Otherwise I agree just pointing out the frustrating aspect of paying these prices to live in Newark when you can’t even find a spot to shoot pool, bowl, more than one movie theater, shit is dead downtown, etc.
Nwk_NJ t1_jaeb6iw wrote
That's not how this works. You didn't produce a source either. As of now, it's unknown.
sutisuc t1_jaebeq8 wrote
https://www.businessinsider.com/ironbound-newark-new-jersey-pollution-law-2022-8
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2022/08/newarks-ironbound-neighborhood-fights-for-clean-air/
There’s three. Can you send some for Philly?
Nwk_NJ t1_jaebab1 wrote
sutisuc t1_jaebzo9 wrote
Oh you want to do it by region? Cause this includes places outside of Philly proper, I was just doing the places in Newark city limits. The bulk of those sites are on the NJ side by the way
Nwk_NJ t1_jaebfal wrote
And whattaya know?!?!?!
We were both making an assumption. Could have just left it there haha...
Whatever no bad blood or anything...you can actually have a debate so all in good fun. I get prices going up is scarey. If it were to become hoboken, we are all screwed. But it won't imo.
sutisuc t1_jaec5en wrote
You gotta read your sources more carefully man. This is about a trash incinerator in Chester PA, which is of course not philadelphia. Meanwhile there’s a trash incinerator in the ironbound.
Nwk_NJ t1_jaedvfu wrote
LoL ok. So they can put the incinerator in Kearny or Rahway next time. That way the invisible Newark Borders will stop the smog...of course it may raise prices in the ironbound!
They did get rid of their in-city incinerator though...so I'm Surprised the prices didn't sky rocket!
https://hiddencityphila.org/2018/03/back-when-we-burned-trash-on-the-delaware-river/
sutisuc t1_jaee65b wrote
I don’t understand you think it’s a bad thing for a city to get rid of an incinerator? This is a weird reflexive “my team vs your team” thing that I don’t get. You want to live in a city with more pollution or less? Philly should be commended for getting rid of that. I hope we do the same in Newark some day. Philly being cheaper and having less pollution than Newark is not the win for Newark you seem to think it is.
Nwk_NJ t1_jaeeisn wrote
LoL you are one of those ppl that can't take an L and just keeps talking. We aren't talking about getting rid of incinerators. I'm in the middle of eviscerating your absurd assertion that Philly had less of a pollution/superfund/incineration problem than Newark.
I was also cracking a joke...since you hate rising prices and don't acknowledge that improvments lead to price increases...i.e., get rid of the incinerator, awesome...but then you'd complain about a house selling for more. You seem like you just want to have your cake and eat it to is what I'm getting....its not realistic.
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sutisuc t1_jaefxvn wrote
I’m talking about present day. Why would you think it matters if a city used to have one? Newark presently has one and many other active polluters. What’s hard to grasp about that.
Regarding your edit can we get some environmental remediation like Philly got in that case to go along with the price increase? I don’t consider studios going for 2500 being a benefit.
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