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datarobot t1_jasz2nr wrote

100% correct. They literally create the traffic congestion.

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GhostOfRobertTreat OP t1_jaszlru wrote

I don’t think it was always like this though? This feels different than before but maybe I just don’t remember how to drive around downtown pre-Covid.

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datarobot t1_jaszycg wrote

I would say it has been like this for a very long time. Every time the community complains about these sorts of things, the city’s response is always, “we have to conduct a traffic study.”

There’s been cases where several people have died in the same area before the issue was fixed.

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NewNewark t1_jat13xt wrote

The three on Broad/Raymond are on a timer but the timers run like 5 seconds off so over the course of a month you see it go from perfect to absolute chaos to perfect again.

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sutisuc t1_jat9pe1 wrote

Lmao this sounds very true to Newark

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tuggyforme t1_jatetry wrote

Driving through newark is one of the most frustrating experiences ever as a tradesman.

NOBODY fkin moves. EVERYBODY's double parked, and like.. people generally act like they got nowhere to go, and nothing to do.

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Newarkguy1836 t1_jayxhw5 wrote

The city division of traffic and signals has gone completely woke with the traffic coming stupidity which actually creates traffic. A few examples:

  • backwards parking on Lower Broadway eliminated two white Lanes at the intersection of 7th Avenue. I avoid that area now you can spend up to 5 minutes just getting from Crittenden Street to the Burger King!
  • the White Lane stripes were never replaced on Broadway after the resurfacing of what was already a good road. So now it's a free-for-all where you have idiot drivers who drive right in the middle of where the two lanes used to be, slowing everybody down. Then you have to bump outs at Broadway and 3rd Avenue. This is so stupid! And now you have 3rd Avenue backup all the way down to McCarter Highway because nobody can make a right turn or go straight at Broadway and 3rd until the poor sap in the front who is stuck finally gets his chance to make the left turn! Of course by then the light is red.
  • For some abnormal reason Park Avenue was converted to one lane each way! Now it has traffic all the way up to the park!
  • Clifton Avenue and Park Avenue by the cathedral. Once again, a ridiculous curb bump out makes it impossible for anyone stuck behind the guy trying to turn left from going around. As a result Clifton Avenue Northbound is always jammed from Park Avenue all the way down to Rotonda pool / 7th Ave!
  • then there's the infamous elimination of Irvine Turner Boulevard as a major 4 lane artery and it's reduction to a one-lane driveway each Direction with a stupid planter in the middle even ambulances cannot maneuver around! I have never seen a person ride a bike in the bike Lanes which are pretty much faded away by now. But hey! Once they come to Newark and go to this Urban hell they'll go back out to the suburbs and never shop here again!
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thebruns t1_jb2uls6 wrote

We got some absolute idiots that post on here lol

Imagine using woke to describe traffic signals and thinking anyone is ever going to take you seriously grandpa

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Newarkguy1836 t1_jb98keo wrote

Obviously you have a narrow definition of "woke".

Woke is "awareness of racial & Social Justice" issues.

"Social Justice' includes 'Environmental Justice" traffic Calming began as a Sweedish Social Justice movement favoring pedestrians & bicyclists over drivers.

Your failure to keep up doesn't make me the "idiot."

I'm done. Next!!

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thebruns t1_jb9skz8 wrote

Explain how this is woke

>the White Lane stripes were never replaced on Broadway after the resurfacing of what was already a good road.

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dsarma t1_jat64qy wrote

I thought I was going insane! I’ll be walking along and see a nasty snarl where the box is blocked really badly, and meanwhile the police aren’t helping matters with their weaving in an out at random.

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GhostOfRobertTreat OP t1_jat6e9r wrote

The police seem uninterested in getting cars parked in travel lanes to move or stopping people who run red lights.

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Newarkguy1836 t1_jayxvv7 wrote

The only target the ones that make honest mistakes. the ones that deliberately run stop signs, or do u turn in their faces and run red lights ,Burn Rubber or speed are ignored.

That's because many cops sees these people as individuals trying to set them up for a Chase and possible liability if they end up shooting or injuring the perpetrators. I think Newark is one of those cities w civilian police complaint board so police are not going to do anything that will jeopardize their jobs. Unless the officers are specifically dispatched to a certain situation, they will look the other way and mind their own business.

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sutisuc t1_jat3bfq wrote

Anything that slows down the drivers in this town is a net positive to me

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GhostOfRobertTreat OP t1_jat5wj5 wrote

I’m all for bike lanes, bump outs, etc. but having a mass of cars congested in the intersections and crosswalks is not safe for anyone. You can have good flow and a safe speed. I’d love to see 21 made more into a pedestrian friendly boulevard. But none of that matters if the light sequence is all screwed up.

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AsSubtleAsABrick t1_jbcow17 wrote

Mistimed lights make it worse because drivers run red lights more often and block intersections. If you've ever driven in the city the lights are timed on the avenues to keep you going 30mph. Going faster means you run into a red light so there is no reason to go faster. If there isn't a ton of volume you can easily ride green lights for 20-30 blocks if not more.

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NeoLephty t1_jats54m wrote

They’re only mistimed if you don’t know the timing! Suckers!!!!

Joking. Yeah, shits way off.

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justdan76 t1_jatxh1v wrote

You can try contacting city hall, I forget the name of the guy who was/is in charge of it, he’s out of his depth but not amenable to suggestions. I had looked into it awhile ago, and had a personal contact in city hall at the time, didn’t get anywhere. They just don’t care.

It’s almost like it’s purposely bad. Definitely a quality of life issue.

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infomanus t1_jauadkw wrote

The new 21/280 boondoggle is a major cluster yuck People block each direction and it snowballs daily

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effort268 t1_jawg4jz wrote

Yeah this +$100M renovation had very bad planning

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Newarkguy1836 t1_jayyii2 wrote

Yes. I can't explain for the life of me why did they make it intersection forcing drivers coming north on Route 21 to loop around by the river and then cross 21 again at grade in a gigantic Jug Handle putting them in a collision course for southbound 21 drivers trying to figure out the fork before their eyes. Not only that, but half the time the driver's trying to access 280 West by Crossing Route 21 can't do it because it's already a line of cars stuck in traffic going Southbound on Route 21 blocking the Box ! There is no reason why the Northbound 21 exit to I-280 couldn't just go around by the river and then immediately launch upward, cross over 21 where it will meet the ramp coming up from 21 South. With all the empty land occupied by The Jug Handle interchange they could have built something better. Somewhere along the line it was decided to go for the cheaper at-grade option.

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Naddduck t1_jaunev3 wrote

The people are mistimed.

Only place I've ever lived where three opposite cars try to turn left in front of you when the light turns green.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jb6up8f wrote

Its on purpose. Its meant to keep speeders in check.

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GhostOfRobertTreat OP t1_jb7d545 wrote

They need to figure out a way to have it mistimed during non rush hour and we’ll times during rush hour. You can’t speed during rush hour traffic anyway.

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Ironboundian t1_javee0c wrote

Which intersection are you referring to?

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GhostOfRobertTreat OP t1_jax9yt3 wrote

Everything you on Bloomfield Ave and Broad Street. Literally everyone seems mistimed

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TrafficSNAFU t1_jaxc909 wrote

Its not just you, I heard somewhere that the traffic signal timing was done to dissuade street racing.

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GhostOfRobertTreat OP t1_jaxfvvb wrote

Then have good signalling during rush hour and wonky ones after hours. Ain’t no one trying to race at 5:30pm on a Wednesday.

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Newarkguy1836 t1_jayyvht wrote

This sounds just about right . Google traffic calming and you'll see all the ridiculous suggestions for reducing traffic, such as placing Boulders or trees in the middle of the road, bollards, trenches with plants and water, zig zag Lanes and retiming of traffic lights to prevent fast movement.

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Newarkguy1836 t1_jaywi07 wrote

In the 1990s Newark mayor Sharpe James had all the traffic lights on Broad Street and McCarter Highway synchronized, the way they are in Manhattan or should I say were. Now they are no longer synchronized. I don't know if it was something that developed over time, or is it part of the stupid thing called traffic calming, which simply aims to create obstacles for drivers.

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GhostOfRobertTreat OP t1_jayx3q3 wrote

Traffic calming is fine. It just means slower speeds. And all speed limits in Newark is 25mph but people speed. What we have is not congestion and flagrant violation of traffic laws.

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