Submitted by Ironboundian t3_11n5jlz in Newark
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ScrollHectic t1_jblmu4s wrote
Christopher Columbus, who we should remember enslaved many native Americans and while governor of Hispaniola would have the bodies of the native Tiano he killed paraded through the streets, has many streets, cities, towns, universities and even our nation's capital named after him. I think he's gotten enough recognition.
There's no shortage of famous and important people from Italy. No need to hold on to the legacy of one man with so much blood on his hands.
kzapwn t1_jblo5o2 wrote
He was gay, Gary Cooper?
BadSopranosBot t1_jblo6wl wrote
NO!! Are you listening to me?!?
RainCloudz973 t1_jblod8d wrote
Wtf are you talking about
kzapwn t1_jbloj2s wrote
Gary cooper, there was an American
LateNightNewYork t1_jblpwhp wrote
Quasimodo predicted this.
effort268 t1_jblpy6x wrote
They didnt destroy the statue, it will likely be put in a musuem where his story will be told, good and bad.
kzapwn t1_jblq2ov wrote
You’re the albacore around my neck
kzapwn t1_jblq9oc wrote
He discovered America is what he did. He was a brave Italian explorer. And in this house, Christopher Columbus is a hero. End of story!
LateNightNewYork t1_jblqpox wrote
Charles Schwab over here.
kzapwn t1_jblr38b wrote
He was gay, Chuck Schwab?
ScrollHectic t1_jblvtbm wrote
He didn't discover it; there were already people here. And he thought he was in India the whole time...
kzapwn t1_jblwrte wrote
Antonio Meucci invented the telephone and he got robbed! Everybody knows that
Newarkguy1836 t1_jblwtup wrote
The centerpiece is such a monstrosity. Perfect example of a receding civilization. The surrounding walls are a nice touch with the names embedded. It could have been combined with another design such as the young Harriet Tubman statue with the Newark history and it's parallel with Tubman designsAfrican Americans imprinted on her dress.
sutisuc t1_jbly7k4 wrote
LMAO peak persecution fetish
sutisuc t1_jblyazw wrote
He’s doing a bit from the sopranos
kzapwn t1_jblzj45 wrote
If he was a Madigan around nowadays he'd be a member of some victim's group: the fundamentalist Christians, the abused cowboys, the gays, whatever the fuck
sutisuc t1_jbm0ela wrote
Yeah you got me I didn’t Catch the sopranos reference lol
EngineSpecialist259 t1_jbm4i9e wrote
I’m literally part Viking, my ancestors were here 500 years before Columbus. NOBODY “discovered” a damned thing.
kzapwn t1_jbm4xew wrote
Excuse me, let me tell you something... When America opened up the floodgates and let all us Italians in, what do you think they were doing it for? 'Cause they were trying to save us from poverty? No, they did it because they needed us.
FriendlyBrownMan t1_jbm528b wrote
The amount of people “from jersey” that don’t get all of these soprano’s references bothers me. I laughed at all of them 🤣
kzapwn t1_jbm56vz wrote
Didn’t most of these commenters almost drown in 3 inches of water? At the penguin exhibit.
FriendlyBrownMan t1_jbm6n6y wrote
Not going to comment on that, out of respect for my fawtha
FriendlyBrownMan t1_jbm6x5z wrote
GhostBUSTERS! Another fuckin money machine!
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kzapwn t1_jbmh55a wrote
Listen to this prick giving orders.
ScrollHectic t1_jbmnnw4 wrote
Me neither. Never watched the Sopranos. I know, I know...
AgitatedAorta t1_jbmwqfp wrote
I would have preferred a more traditional statue myself. But calling it "an example of a receding civilization" is the kind of hyperbole that makes people not take what you say seriously. There's always been mediocre art in all periods.
DCDavis t1_jbnstgz wrote
Yeah this is a trash opinion my guy.
DCDavis t1_jbnsvqp wrote
Go back to Italy
kzapwn t1_jbntz3i wrote
Furio is there that asshole
Echos_myron123 t1_jbo5hhy wrote
I don't like a monument therefore civilization is receding. Come on.
Newarkguy1836 t1_jbpnpjz wrote
For thousands of years, every civilization 's visual Arts has improved upon the civilization before it. The trend has always been towards more realism. It was the given from the time man left the caves, to the sumerians, Egypt, India and Far East, culminating with the Greek, Roman & peaking with the US/English Victorian era. Then something happened in the early 20th century, everything stalled and became not so realistic. Art deco sculptures began, then cubism, abstractism the degradation continues to the point where a a crucifix in a toilet bowl full of rotting urine is considered "a monument". The trend now is towards not just unrealistic, but sheer lunacy with random pipes and metals, Justified by the excuse you're supposed to see the "spiritual aspect of it".
Either you refuse to acknowledge what I'm talking about, or you're like one of the four Blind Men. Each one clutching a leg and refusing to acknowledge the opinion of other three and realize the big elephant above them.
I'm not against abstract art. I believe abstract art should be about Concepts, not about individuals. Harriet Tubman was not a bunch of wires with a hollow interior. She deserved a lot better then what looks like a used Christmas lights wire prop up with wires curving (a dress?) down the side. Not a bunch of politicians and social activists and a photo op with the mayor pretending the thing behind them is the most beautiful thing they've ever seen. But hey, you have your tastes I have mine.
RationalMellow t1_jbrqaml wrote
RationalMellow t1_jbrqhc6 wrote
But he also landed in the Caribbean.
RationalMellow t1_jbrqsey wrote
When I hear “receding” I think of a hairline. Sorry if anyone spits their drink out in laughter.
RationalMellow t1_jbs0a5z wrote
But that’s kinda the reason for it being called abstract art. Pretending? But where did they say it was beautiful?
Newarkguy1836 t1_jbs5ica wrote
That's just me saying rants. 😂I wasn't quoting.
Newarkguy1836 t1_jbwb7q1 wrote
They didn't destroy the statue but they did damage it when they dumped it on a city vacant lot on Verona Avenue across the street from the shuttered Seton Factory. A local resident walking up Verona Avenue saw & recognized the mangled statue on a broken pallet among the weeds, in plain sight from the sidewalk. Separated from the public by a chain link fence.
RationalMellow t1_jchptvo wrote
I saw it for the first time today. I will say it looks much better in person than what the photos show.
kzapwn t1_jbljgy6 wrote
My father was a Knight of Columbus: an Italian American and I paid money to the American Italian Anti-Defamation League counsel, we're the victims here