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ryanov t1_iwea584 wrote

Reply to comment by ahtasva in 7 Eleven to go by mantunesofnewark

I suspect Silva would agree with you that the police should address the loitering problem, but I definitely don't. Loitering is not a real problem, and over-policing is.

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ahtasva t1_iwetiyh wrote

Loitering is not a problem if you are not the business owner who is running that 7-11.

I bet you would not think it over policing if a large congregation of homeless people were permanently camped out on your door steps, throwing their refuge indiscriminately, playing loud music, dealing and using drugs in the open. As much as I empathize with the homeless, I don’t see the logic of allowing them free reign to what are public spaces. How does it help them?

The well to do liberals who live in the heavily policed suburbs like Montclair and Glen Ridge and pay high property taxes for the privilege of not having to deal with the unwashed masses tell you that the homeless must be allowed to do as they please. They assuage their own guilt this way because it cost them nothing to so. It’s the poorest and most disadvantaged members of our society who pay the price for the failed policies they push.

Crime is up 30% at a time when the nation is at full employment. Only the delusional can be tricked into believing that “criminal justice reform” in the form of eliminating cash bail and setting dangerous repeat offenders out on the streets to victimize the poor and defenseless is a net good to society.

The truth is much more hard to digest. Criminal justice reform is the “cheapest” wokie policy that the dems could come up with to placate a base that they have been cheating for decades. Not higher minimum wages or better public education or publicly funded health care or higher education. All of that would cost their donors and their favored constituents; the laptop class to much. So they give you a policy that is failing even before it’s has been fully rolled out.

There is a housing crisis in this country and both parties are busy funding a proxy way with Russia that has us at the brink of nuclear catastrophe! 100billion for Ukraine and there are homeless people right now forced to take a shit in Peter Francisco park🤦🏾. Not one “progressive” opposes the war!! Tells you all you need to know about their priorities.

Is it any wonder that the Republicans, despite being a morally bankrupt party of reactionaries and outright loonies has managed to pull away upwards of 15% of the black and Latino vote!

More and more people are clueing in to the simple fact that the so called progressives don’t give one fuck for the people at the bottom beyond using them as cheap votes and canon fodder in the culture wars, but hey; you keep blaming the police; getting rid of the police is the solution we all deserve.

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Nwk_NJ t1_iwecowa wrote

Go set up a commune.

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ryanov t1_iwecrxn wrote

Go fuck yourself?

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Nwk_NJ t1_iwedd88 wrote

All rage, no substance.

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ryanov t1_iwedm0u wrote

You know what, when your substance is suggesting that we should sweep undesirables out of your field of view, maybe rage is warranted.

What isn’t warranted is the amount of time I’m wasting on this thread.

Thanks much, though, for your valuable “go set up a commune” contribution to the discourse.

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Nwk_NJ t1_iweffve wrote

All rage. No reality.

I am pointing out facts. Some people do not respect public spaces and desecrate them.

Leaping from me pointing out basic reality to suggesting that means I want to sweep undesirables under the rug is an absolute misnomer. It's laughable.

So according to you revolutionaries, you can either tolerate bad behavior or else be accused of wanting to whipe people away and being racist? Such an absolute false premise.

You're just angry that standards exist in the world at all. Why not place some blame on those doing the wrong things rather than someone who has the audacity to call it out? What is with this new generation and their absolute rejection of common decency and their embrace of crime and the lowest common denominator?

Do you kids aspire to anything other than autonomous zones? (Which failed anyway)

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ryanov t1_iwekht9 wrote

I'm not sure why you think that people who aren't respected themselves should have any particular respect for public spaces. People are far more important than public spaces.

I'm blaming someone doing something wrong: you. You have opinions like this, you make arguments like this, and I suspect you vote like this. You are part of the problem. Moving people on from a 7-Eleven does not solve any of these problems, it just makes sure you don't have to see them.

I graduated from high school in 2000, bro. I'm not sure what kind of "kid" that makes me.

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