Submitted by Klutzy-Tackle- t3_100fxv2 in Newark
tuggyforme t1_j2hwy07 wrote
America is a beautiful country, but Newark is one of the highest crime cities in New Jersey. It is a very poor representative of the country as a whole, and you must mentally prepare yourself for that. There are hundreds of geopolitical, economic, and cultural reasons for the way things are, but unfortunately, that's the current reality.
The good news is that right outside of newark (and irvington and east orange) is a completely different world. You're a shoethrow from NYC/manhattan, one of the top 20 greatest and most powerful cities on earth.
NJ has many indian communities, restaurants, mosques, and temples. Some are gigantic incase you ever get homesick. Try to get a cheap used car, or rent a car every now and then, and get around a little.
marceljj t1_j2i5xta wrote
it’s literally a lie that it’s one of the highest crime cities. I don’t understand why people say stuff like this just to say it
tuggyforme t1_j2ia1mz wrote
It's still top 10 in NJ in terms of crime. Why bullshit a foreign visitor? that's cruel.
OP, please ignore these nutbags.
NewarkDwyer t1_j2j1tp1 wrote
Your "source" links to a non-government website that provides no source for anything it is saying. It cites data that (if it is accurate at all) is 12 years out of date. It does not compare Newark to other cities, much less compare crime to other cities on a per capita basis. So your argument isn't supported by anything other than prejudice.
Crime stats have dramatically improved in Newark in recent years especially. It largely escaped the uptick in violent crime seen in other large cities. I live and work downtown and the notion that this is some kind of dystopian hellhole is just a lie. Newark has a lot of challenges but it is a great city and it is generally moving in the right direction.
You're entitled to your own opinion (even if based on prejudice), but you are not entitled to your own facts. I would encourage the OP to research the publicly available data, and not listen to bigots and haters.
marceljj t1_j2iwlzi wrote
what’s cruel is you writing off a city of 300+ thousand people because idk you saw a homeless person at Penn station
these suburban boogeyman takes don’t do anything to help bud
if this city makes you clutch your pearls so hard, what are you even doing in this subreddit
tuggyforme t1_j2j6z4f wrote
I lived and worked there over a decade. Every part. If you think newark truly offers everything there is to offer in NJ, you need to get out more. Newark only offers a shitty quality of life except for the most expensive upscale buildings, you need to travel A LOT more.
This is the time when he's supposed to make meaningful connections. It's not going to happen in any affordable part of newark. But also lack of sleep due to noise at night.. lack of safety... not knowing if your place is going to get robbed... not knowing if you're going to get mugged going out for milk. Whole city smells like trash. The litter.. bars on windows... it's all just shitty depressing environments.
marceljj t1_j2j93py wrote
yea I live here and I don’t worry about any of that stuff. It just seems tough living life so scared and paranoid.
i like where i live and I’m sure you like where you do, so maybe avoid calling people nutbags for that
tuggyforme t1_j2j9erq wrote
I don't think that's paranoid for someone that is out of place. I think it's realistic caution. Seen it happen, happened to me a few times. It's just part of the gig when you're walking around places alone at different hours and stick out for invariable reasons.
I'm not calling people nutbags for living there. I had my reasons for living there too.
I'm calling people nutbags for acting like it's a totally average run of the mill part of New Jersey or America. To this dude from India whose only knowledge is basically movies and TV shows, that's just not what he's expecting.
Newark is anything but-.
Love it or hate it, the sht is fked up... by all measures.
Rainbowrobb t1_j2i93nc wrote
Homicides are at a 60 year low. Stfu if you don't know what you're talking about
tuggyforme t1_j2ia3yt wrote
Irrelevant to my statement. Still high crime compared to the rest of the state. He doesn't sound like he can afford the $2000/mo+ to live in any nice area, so kindly stfu right back 🙄
Rainbowrobb t1_j2if15p wrote
You can live in one of the half a dozen rent controlled buildings in a 600+ sq ft studio in the north ward for 1200/mo including everything but internet. Stfu if you don't know what you're talking about. You're just a fear mongerer talking about things outside of your knowledge base. Go swim in the Passaic
tuggyforme t1_j2ifm68 wrote
The north ward is shitty too.
I'm just saying if the dude is going to travel thousands of miles across oceans to experience something new, Newark is a crappy place to start. Any other City in NJ is better.
He's going to figure it out by himself sooner or later. And then, this guy will think you guys are a bunch a dicks.
Rainbowrobb t1_j2ih5e1 wrote
But he's going to college in Newark. Furthermore, broad st to springfield and the hill from NJMS down to military park is fine, and heavily patrolled by NJIT and Rutgers police. So the pavilion would be right there. Sit your unqualified to speak on this topic self down. Your knowledge is musty at best.
tuggyforme t1_j2ihjiv wrote
Granted, but it's still shitty. He's coming to the free world... not to live somewhere where windows are barred up and patrols have to keep strangers from mugging him... like this is not a good environment to enjoy this new part of the world... fkin hell.. too bad he can't go to like some nice place in central jersey or like bergen co or more rural north or south counties.. or even lancaster PA.. there are SO many nicer places, where ppl are not so despondent and broke down, and things are nicer and friendlier, ppl are more gentle and easy going... he's trading one messy socially dysfunctional overcrowded place for another. They done sent this kid straight to the hood smh, like why tho?
Rainbowrobb t1_j2iikp1 wrote
That is not where he got accepted to college, get it through your cheese filled brain. You're crossing from uneducated to racist in this comment. Mods here are aggressive, you'll likely be gone soon.
tuggyforme t1_j2ilbnl wrote
Ad Hominem. This has nothing to do with race.
He could buy a used car and just drive 20 minutes. It would be the smarter thing to do. He can sleep easy and not worry about craziness waking him up every other night.
Rainbowrobb t1_j2io6rt wrote
I'm 35, "ad hominem" just outs you as a highschooler. Your solution to the kid coming here for the first time is to have them buy a car and drive 20 minutes in New Jersey to get to Newark? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
tuggyforme t1_j2ip7wt wrote
In this case, it's what most smart people would do.
Thousands of people who work in Newark and go to schools in newark, don't live in Newark. Heck, I even know city workers who keep a cheap rental room in newark for official address, but live outside of Newark too.
Quit acting like it's far fetched.
Rainbowrobb t1_j2iyqwn wrote
>who keep a cheap rental room in newark for official address
So there are cheap enough rooms to rent that this makes economic sense and yet you believe they need to spend over $2k per month on rent? To be clear, your solution is to have someone who has never seen the US to move to NJ and use a car to commute, do you have any idea how expensive their auto insurance would be? Isn't your mom calling from upstairs for lunch or something ?
I lived in 3 different apartments from studio to 3 bedroom over 8 years living in Newark where I earned my grad degree and still work for the state government. Salaries for public employees are public. Almost no positions would make fiscal sense to do this over.
ParamedicCareful3840 t1_j2j6jbh wrote
He is likely going to NJIT, a very good school. That area is safe. Any city has shitty areas, a lot of suburbs do as well. Unless he is going on some drug buy in a housing project, he should be fine.
UPenn is in a bad area of Philadelphia, it’s still a good school. Parts of New Haven are bad, should people not go to Yale. Columbia is in Morningside Heights which is basically Harlem. Should people not go there.
Newark has great transit options right into Manhattan., he can jump on Amtrak to Philadelphia, DC, Boston, etc. He has Newark Airport right there to go most anywhere. I think for an international student, Newark is a better option than some rural campus in the sticks, you saw 4 students murdered in Moscow Idaho recently, but just my opinion
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