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StandStillLaddie t1_ja05n72 wrote

Public Service Announcement: Madonna does not look like Madonna anymore.

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JackTrippin t1_ja09vz3 wrote

Is there a hotter Madonna than Like A Prayer era Madonna?

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drone42 t1_ja0azf8 wrote

Hm... I wonder how she's doing nowadays?

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Vainandy t1_ja0fjtd wrote

The one of the most overrated pop stars ever, it still amazes me when people consider her a "legend." The general public are very easy to impress.

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pk10534 t1_ja0ij4z wrote

Replying to Vainandy (#2,006,630)

Idk I mean you don’t have to like her music, but she was an excellent entertainer who was a mastermind at publicity and knew how to get attention in a way many other singers didn’t. I think that’s part of why she’s considered so impressive: her voice really isn’t that great or amazing and she’s not the prettiest singer to exist, but she still knew how to blow up the news and make sure everybody was talking about her

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pk10534 t1_ja0jerc wrote

Replying to Vainandy (#2,007,229)

I mean I just said it? She was very good at manipulating her media image and doing things that got her maximum exposure. And she was never stale, every album she released was like she reinvented herself. Look at the change she went through from high pitched Minnie Mouse voice with ratty street urchin hair and clothes in Like a Virgin to where she was in Papa Don’t Preach or Like a Prayer. She managed to constantly stay on top of what was in style and what would garner her attention.

And that’s stuff a lot of other celebrities are not as good at. She was incredibly intelligent and business minded. She wasn’t out there doing drugs and acting like a mess, she carefully crafted an image and the media swallowed it whole. And frankly that takes a lot more skill than just being able to sing a pop song well

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Deritatium t1_ja0s4sq wrote

She was still fine before her recents surgeries, now she look puffy and weird.

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Do_it_My_Way-79 t1_ja0vwxl wrote

Another woman that was afraid to age & ruined her face.

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Coupon_Ninja t1_ja0xty9 wrote

Replying to JackTrippin (#2,005,747)

I’m more of a fan of Deasperatly Seeking Susan era Madonna, but that’s a good ear too. She was still a little mysterious at the time. So seeing her in a “comedy” was… interesting.

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capturedguy t1_ja0y14k wrote

Replying to Vainandy (#2,007,410)

She has the second highest top 10 singles of any woman ever on Billboard's top 100 charts. 38 songs in the top 10. And dozens more in the top 40 and top 100. That's not done by someone with no talent. She may not have been the best singer, but she certainly isn't bad. And her songs in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's were eminently catchy and listenable.

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slowmood t1_ja0zkxw wrote

This is was when there were no bra tops. She is just wearing a bra.

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Marmar79 t1_ja11o78 wrote

I want the Sicilian hooker in white lotus s2 to play young her in the biopic soon.

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crudedrawer t1_ja16trf wrote

Replying to Deritatium (#2,008,835)

She's made some choices, but i think what's most jarring about her current look is her lack of eyebrows. I honestly believe if she still had her natural Italian eyebrows the rest of her work wouldn't seem as alien.

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ianmoone1102 t1_ja1dnc0 wrote

Yes, there was a time when she didn't look like a boiled egg.

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Plant_head905 t1_ja1gov9 wrote

I love that this is nsfw and I just saw a video of a dolphin humping a girl and it wasn’t nsfw

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GrilledSpamSteaks t1_ja1ke9k wrote

She had a rough life after Weird Al split up with her. Offing drug kingpins and taking over their cartels is rough stuff.

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_portia_ t1_ja1lbj7 wrote

She was an original. Whatever happened to the little mole above her lips? Did she get it removed?

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katycake t1_ja1lwzf wrote

Replying to crudedrawer (#2,011,682)

I simply hope she hasn't gone fully overboard, and some of this mess is savable.

She still rather hot 10 years ago. What happened? :(

She was suppose to age eventually. Betty White old as dirt, but she's cute, and still look good well into her 80's. Madonna meanwhile riding a stellar 100 for the longest time, and drops to zero over what feels like months.

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Vainandy t1_ja1nwp0 wrote

Replying to Dada2fish (#2,011,501)

You can't be serious? A good dancer? That's a slap in the face to people who were actual good dancers like James Brown, Michael Jackson, Paula Abdul, Janet Jackson, Chris Brown, also are you sure she wrote a lot of songs? Considering her history of plagiarism??

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tagjohnson t1_ja1u4bw wrote

Back when she was still attractive and relevant.

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Sweet_Angle_8022 t1_ja20bqs wrote

Oh man! I've only ever known Madonna to look like an alien. A revelation for sure.

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SaigonTodd t1_ja20f1n wrote

Blink your eyes Gen Z and Taylor Swift will be a mutant cat lady it will seem like 5 yrs from now but it will be 30

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Crackerzot t1_ja23820 wrote

How is this NSFW? Help me understand.

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AitchyB t1_ja23hmj wrote

Replying to tagjohnson (#2,016,148)

She used to be a fashion leader, but somewhere along the way she turned into a try hard slave to fashion Kardashian wannabe. It’s weird because it didn’t have to be an age thing, but by trying to stay looking like a 19 year old at a festival she made it an age thing.

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Dada2fish t1_ja24x8l wrote

Replying to Vainandy (#2,014,943)

Whoa… slow your roll, lol. She knows how to dance. I never said she’s the best dancer, but she you can’t deny she’s has skill as a dancer. She studied it for many years.

Obviously, you’ve got all kinds of reasons built up in your head that convince you how terrible she is. I don’t know, maybe you ran into her somewhere and she snubbed you when you tried to flirt with her. So, no matter what, you’ve got some bitterness going on. You’re definitely passionate about your dislike for her. Anyway, good luck with all that.

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archbetrayer t1_ja25fpd wrote

This sub only has two modes:

  1. “Who else wants to fuck my grandpa” and
  2. Shaming famous women for making choices about how they age while simultaneously slobbering over their youth, which is exactly the sort of pressure that leads people to make the choices you find gross or unpalatable.

It’s like clockwork.

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phargoh t1_ja25sa6 wrote

Replying to AitchyB (#2,017,748)

I agree. I always thought she'd be too strong willed to go that way and she'd grow old somewhat gracefully. But I think things changed after Hard Candy and she did her next album with Nicki Minaj collaborations and such. And she seems to have just been trying too hard ever since. That announcement video she made to announce her upcoming tour was so cringe.

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fiendishrabbit t1_ja26mcd wrote

Replying to JackTrippin (#2,005,747)

I'm personally not a huge fan of the Like A Prayer era Madonna.

Personal favorites would be either the Madonna of Who's that girl world tour (Who's that girl, True Blue) for young Madonna, or Madonna around the 2000s. The 2000s had some...questionable moments... but Madonna in her Frozen music video is a total goth smokeshow.

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YourWiseOldFriend t1_ja26o9s wrote

She was a total smoke show in the eighties.

'papa don't preach'

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RexMarvin t1_ja26sk0 wrote

I think she looks better now. 😁

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SaneRadicals t1_ja2891v wrote

Beautiful. What she has done to Herself recently is a travesty. There is nothing wrong with aging . All the work she has had done added to the filters makes her look like an alien.

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turdusphilomelos t1_ja28x1e wrote

Replying to katycake (#2,014,562)

I hate these kind of comments. For women who age it is an impossible "damned if you do, damned if you don't"- situation with ageing. If you age naturally and look old, people forget about you and you get completely ignored. If you try to fight ageing and look young people talk about you, but only to laugh and ridicule you.

Yeah, Betty White aged with grace, but she hade a very different media persona,playing off the "I know I am old, but I still say slightly cheeky and inappropriate things", where she could allow wrinkles to show.

In Scandinavia (I actually don't know how often the term is used in the rest of the world, maybe you all already know about it), we identify a series of "master suppression"-techniques, which are defined as strategies of social manipulation by which a dominant group maintains such a position in a (established or unexposed) hierarchy. One of the strategies is "double punishment", and one classical example of that is how womens attitudes to beaty treatments are treated : "ugly" women tend to be ridiculed, but women who try to look beautiful are seen as superficial and vain.

This "double punishment" strategy is used on ageing women all the time.

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ItsJustMeMaggie t1_ja2903v wrote

She would’ve aged so well if she just left that face alone

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elixier t1_ja2dv9z wrote

Replying to turdusphilomelos (#2,018,619)

> If you try to fight ageing and look young people talk about you, but only to laugh and ridicule you.

If you do surgery and make yourself look deformed, then no, that's nonsense; plenty of women who aged normally are still considered to be attractive and didn't fade away as you say.

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postumus77 t1_ja2hcs7 wrote

I've always found her off putting for some reason even in her prime, she definitely stands out, and she's not unattracrtive or anything, but there's just something that doesn't work for me.

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MaddestOfHatters t1_ja2hn1e wrote

Back when she was actually beautiful and didn’t look like a blow up doll

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JadowArcadia t1_ja2jfip wrote

Replying to turdusphilomelos (#2,018,619)

I mean why would you expect to be treated as something you no longer are though? Why feel the need to be hot or attractive well into old age? Why try and compete with women half your age? I really don't think it's as "damned if you do, damned if you dont" as people say. It's just that nobody likes getting old and dropping out of the limelight after getting all this attention for so long. It's part of life. Madonna could easily have followed Betty Whites vibe and accepted that she's no longer a 20 year old with sex appeal. That's how you get forgotten. When you keep trying to sell something you no longer have. Madonna seems to put her looks far before her music despite her music being the thing that would really keep her in the limelight.

I also think your "double punishment" theory is being used to specifically highlight women when what you've said clearly applies to the vast majority of people. We know less attractive people are treated worse than attractive people and we know people look down on people who "try too hard". And the older we get the harder we have to try which is why older people who accept where they are in life and don't try so hard end up being percieved as cooler.

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Smrtihara t1_ja2ksss wrote

Fuck you for making this NSFW. It’s not.

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Fortraner t1_ja2n8vp wrote

Replying to turdusphilomelos (#2,018,619)

what's so bad about aging and "becoming fogotten"? so you think messing up your face to stay relevant is okay? why must you be remembered? the spotlight comes and goes, it's not an obligation to remain in it and the past achievements will stay with people forever anyway

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ugliestparadefloat t1_ja30vo0 wrote

Replying to kikistiel (#2,018,716)

I think it’s fair to blame society, to an extent, for our collective obsession with vanity and it’s unrealistic standards. That’s always been a thing. HOWEVER, I would now like to shift some of that blame onto the fucking Kardashians. Truly. They have caused, and currently do cause, so much god damn harm. The amount of 20 year olds getting shit done to their bodies and faces has really popped off in the last decade. I was watching reruns of Felicity the other day and was thinking about how not one character in that show had lip injections but they were all so attractive like…how did we get here? Oh…ok yes, the Kardashians. That’s how.

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rainer_d t1_ja32vv8 wrote

Now Google „Madonna hands“ for some cringe-worthy images.

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Hocraft-Loveward t1_ja33tfv wrote

Replying to JadowArcadia (#2,020,048)

>I mean why would you expect to be treated as something you no longer are though? Why feel the need to be hot or attractive well into old age?

Because it's their job.
While you can see plenty of old actors (65 or more) and old male singers, their females couterparts are still some exceptions. and most of the time it's because 'they are still hot' (think dolly parton)

madonna's job is literally to be notorious for being provocative. so nothing new here. just let her be.

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JadowArcadia t1_ja34zog wrote

Replying to Hocraft-Loveward (#2,023,700)

As much as I see your point, being hot isnt Madonnas job. Her job has always been music. Being hot and provocative was just a supplementary factor. It's not like her career was based around being a model and even if it was, that's not a job you can have forever. Same way you can't be an athlete forever, eventually your body doesn't have it anymore and that's natural and completely ok. Most artists that continue to have lucrative careers aren't managing that based purely around sex appeal. It's their music and often nostalgia that keeps them going.

Also, I feel like your Dolly Parton point ignores how much people like her based on culture, her personality, her charitability etc etc more than just because "they are still hot". I mean a huge amount of Madonna fanbase come from the gay male community. I don't them finding her sexually attractive would be the factor that helped hold onto their support.

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Thesujman t1_ja36w1d wrote

And now she’s a crazy old lady with bad plastic surgery

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fyrja t1_ja3mvqz wrote

She always looked so much better as a brunette to me.

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JANGO- t1_ja3mztp wrote

When she was still human

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19wangotango t1_ja3uef3 wrote

That’s not Madonna, I just seen her on an awards show and doesn’t resemble the woman posted.

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Practical-Dish715 t1_ja3vrvw wrote

Never a fan of hers but she was definitely in her prime peak hotness here.

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oxfordfox20 t1_ja3xfvn wrote

The most SFW photo of Madonna from the 80s.

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FireflyAdvocate t1_ja3xui6 wrote

She was so very hot. I really would love to see what she would look like if she had actually been a bad ass and let herself age gracefully. Anyone with money can get that weird bloated face she has now (think the villain in Saw without the spiral circles). She could still be leading the charge for women to take control of their own sexuality but she sold out to a plastic surgeon.

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Infamous_Opinion_466 t1_ja3y3i8 wrote

Between 1985-1992, she was the hottest entertainer around. So many memories..

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niceoutside2022 t1_ja3yz2p wrote

She's gotten kind of weird lately with trying to pretend she's not aging, but you have to give it to her, she's a self made woman who worked her ass off to get where she did

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fsociety091786 t1_ja4d5sm wrote

Even just a few years ago she looked great. I think it’s understandable to fight aging with some minor work, but what she did to herself as of late clearly jumped the shark.

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BuyNo4013 t1_ja51bky wrote

Never a beauty, but always a strong presence and a like-no-other savvy of what is hip. Painful to see what time is doing to us all, even to her.

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sonicjesus t1_ja6rq4s wrote

I've always found her so much more attractive as a brunette. I don't know why she insists on being a blonde when it doesn't match her skin tone in any way.

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