I remember the "hidden gusset" was such a strange concept, and was a big hit in my martial arts circle of friends who just repeatedly found ways to make fun of this. But then we all secretly bought a pair of these. I can say without a doubt, and not only for kicking, but for such simple things as sitting, these were the best! Every pair of jeans you can buy these days makes my whole "section" scream for help when I sit. Don't know who tf these things are designed for, stickmen maybe. Do people not have leg muscles anymore?