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LocalInactivist t1_ixb8f2j wrote

Reply to comment by GSV_No_Fixed_Abode in Actor/footballer Vinnie Jones with opposing player Paul Gascoigne during a match. 1988 by 305FUN

He wasn’t exactly a celebrity then, at least not on his current level. At the time he was a footballer who was known as a “hard man”, meaning he played dirty.

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maciver6969 t1_ixbdb92 wrote

Most contact sports have a "goon" position, their entire job is to make the other team afraid to fuck with them and mind fuck them during the games. Vinnie seemed to enjoy it a bit much but you never heard of him acting like that other than the field. The said his first conviction was bogus his neighbor stole from him, he confronted him then was accused of biting him and beating him, but medical experts said no such evidence - then he admitted the plane fight saying he did it, and witnesses said " The former Wimbledon player screamed obscenities at Stephen Driscoll after he asked him to stop pestering a woman on the flight"

Jones, 38, then slapped Mr Driscoll around the face and pushed his head into a window of the first class compartment of the Virgin Atlantic aircraft.

Seems well earned if he was not taking no for an answer...

People here act like he is an axe murderer lmao We cant put modern society's shit on things that happened in the 80-90's when they were acceptable behaviors especially when he only did the shit on the field.

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TaischiCFM t1_ixd3ij1 wrote

That shit wasn't acceptable in the 80's-90's, wtf. That would end as an ass kicking most of the time.

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GSV_No_Fixed_Abode t1_ixddtjm wrote

Yes, that is the point I'm making.

If he never made movies and was just another athlete sexually assaulting another athlete, people would be rightly criticizing him.

It's precisely because he went on to being a famous actor that people are quoting his cool quotes and handwaving away his sexual assault.

You do see the point I'm making, don't you?

I'm not shitting on sports. Sports are great. I'm shitting on celebrity derangement syndrome.

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LocalInactivist t1_ixdgoki wrote

Sexual assault? It qualifies by any reasonable definition of the term but hitting someone in the nuts seems more like regular assault. And for good or ill, a lot of stuff happens in sports that would be considered assault in any other context. If you chase someone down while hitting them with a stick it’s definitely assault, unless you’re playing lacrosse. Then it’s a legal move. Rugby is a riot over someone trying to steal a ball. And then there’s boxing.

No one is claiming that Vinnie Jones wasn’t a serious asshole on the field. He was a goon. That’s part of sports. It’s not a good part, but here we are.

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