Submitted by ODDBOY90 t3_10v1rb0 in Pennsylvania
Kfrr t1_j7f0gdj wrote
You have complete and total control of your life and the direction you want it to go.
If you keep blaming everything on your "dead end town" and don't take some serious initiative, then before you know it a small $2000 check will be the least of your worries.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fjpgp wrote
PA has a lot of dead end towns. Even the ones that are doing well are only working for a small group
Kfrr t1_j7fjyqn wrote
Don't blame the town. Leave.
Plenty of places in the country hire seasonally and house you. Spent half of my adult life bartending for tourists in different states during different seasons. Did 6 summers in Ohiopyle, most of them living in a vehicle.
You either got it or you don't.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fk5fd wrote
The grass is always greener my friend. I think this is a national maybe even global issue
Kfrr t1_j7fkb1u wrote
You won't know if the grass is greener or not unless you go for the hike.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fkkwv wrote
Sounds like you just like to run away and avoid something. Fair enough. But you can seize the day in more ways than fleeing just saying
Kfrr t1_j7flffv wrote
...?
There are billions of people on this planet and an infinite number of things to see and do and when someone says "leave your small town there's a lot of opportunity everywhere" your immediate response is "the grass is always greener, sounds like you like to run away".
I've snowboarded lone peak in Montana, I've done some of the biggest whitewater in the US, I've piloted an aircraft, my tattoo artist is in the UK, I've lived in a van for 6 months in Big Bend nat'l park, I've backpacked Mexico for a month, I have a wedding to go to in Africa in April, I've hiked sections of the AT and PCT...
And I'm from a poor family in Fayette fucking county.
I wouldn't be surprised if you... Got married, had children and bought a fucking house. (Correct me if I'm wrong: acknowledge if that's your dream).
Fuck outta here with your speculation and criticism.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fm0ka wrote
Like what do you want me to say ‘good for you’ whenever people voice something about how they are struggling there is always that guy that’s like ‘my life is great because I hustled, I wouldn’t get it…’ what does it serve but your own ego. I’m assuming you mean well but its tone deaf in this context. Some people just want to talk without breaking down their resume sometimes ya know
Kfrr t1_j7fmke2 wrote
They need to leave!
This has nothing to do with resumes or ego. It's a dead. end. town.
There's one outcome: a dead end.
Throw it the fuck away and move on.
I literally offered advice on how to get out. Work for a ski resort in the winter. Work for Nemacolin in the summer. They will house you and pay you well. If you like the place and want to move up the ladder, by all means go for it.
The least valuable advice is "stay put sweetie, the grass is always greener".
You know it, I know it.
Pack up, ship out, throw yourself out there, create opportunity. You could have $0 to your name and a well-traveled spirit and be in a better mindset than sticking it out in a dead end town waiting for a $2000 check from the President.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fnncm wrote
Yeah I agree I probably would. I was just speaking on the issue being systemic and if you are struggling there are very real forces keeping you down. I’m not one to accept this condition but it is very real. That’s just what I’m speaking on. I’m all for people living their best life, but $2k is way better $0.
Kfrr t1_j7fo4r5 wrote
I did. Went in on an apartment with 5 friends that I made in my travels and found a job when I got there.
Multiple moves across the US with no job or house lined up. Was homeless in Denver for a week because they wouldn't sign the lease for the apartment until I had a job offer.
I lived in Lidia's parking lot in Pittsburgh in 2014 while I worked there. They had no idea. Made friends, found a room.. well an unfinished basement, but it was warm.
We're capable of so much more than you give us credit for.
julietteskyerose t1_j7foroo wrote
It sounds like you’re just saying the only way to do things when poor is be homeless or begging for work… am I a dick for saying this… but like you can understand how that’s not super appealing to everyone
Kfrr t1_j7fqlvq wrote
If you're poor, you're already homeless and begging for work.
The sooner you accept that, the easier it is to move forward.
If you have a home and no money at the end of the month, you should be begging for work.
Complacency is the problem. It's easy to find a job and a place to live. A great majority of the population already does that. I've done it more times than I can count. Can you max your IRA, though? Can you really support your family? Do the kids get regular haircuts? Do you have time to cook every day? Do you contribute to a 529 plan for their future education?
I would rather an income, retirement contributions and a vehicle than be house poor. I've never, ever gone without a vehicle. It's an absolute necessity and can be lived in easily for significantly less than a house. I'll never be able to really afford children, so I won't have them. These are logical conclusions, unfortunately. I've accepted them, despite not being super appealing.
The easy life is hovering around a family in your hometown, barely making ends meet and bitching about politics and global economic problems. It's easy to look forward to the game on Sunday and the 7 familiar faces that are showing up to check out your new air fryer. That's definitely not super appealing to me.
It would be great to have come from a wealthy family. I didn't win the genetic lottery.
We only get so many rotations on this rock.
Time to make the best of it.
ODDBOY90 OP t1_j7njo6e wrote
i hear you but thats why i was needing that 2k..... in dead end towns jobs cut hours have low pay, ugghghh you know the drill.
at the end of the day i did this to myself, i allowed myself to get used and it costed me. being too much of a nice guy cost me big time. and im an adult. so no one cares......
if i have to move to a poor neighborhood or live in a car, so be it. i cant believe life is this hard, one mistake can cost you. people in bigger cities have more opportunities and can network.
i do have another chronic issue but now its get rich or die trying so fck it. if i die i die.
this world is cruel and i cant believe i was so dam naive. not saying that i will become heartless and be selfish but now i understand what people are capable of.
​
but again thanks
Kfrr t1_j7o6cod wrote
Bro. You got this.
Make a small plan, that's all you need. If you have a vehicle and apply for a summer job somewhere, figure out how much it costs to get you there, save best ya can and make it happen.
If you don't have a vehicle yet then that's step #1. Learn money things like financing costs and what you can afford in a month if you work x/hrs and make $y/hr. If your credit sucks, that's the new step #1. If you don't have kids or a mortgage then you're already ahead of the people who dream of doing this but are kind of stuck.
If you break it down to "I need to start working on my credit so I can buy a car and leave this place in 6 months" then you have a real goal you can break down into how much money you have to make to make it happen.
While you're putting this plan to action, start reading about the hundreds of seasonal jobs you can scoop up, pick a few and fire off some applications. If you want housing included, focus on resorts/cruises.
It will take some time to establish yourself at a spot you love. Just work hard and you'll either get full time, year round employment or be invited back next season.
Before you know it you'll be able to breathe again.
dancingprotein t1_j7h2sll wrote
Don’t bother. Some people are just pessimistic
ODDBOY90 OP t1_j7flaol wrote
trust me bro I know this, im still wondering how tf did i go from living in nyc to this lol. im leaving i just need to figure out how im going to make real wages without having to commute 2 hours for decent work.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fmxsl wrote
Yeah I have family telling me to move more west since I live in one of the most expensive areas in pa and I don’t know how many ways to phrase it that there is nothing there. Even though I pay a lot to live here I can commute without a car so that helps me save up. It’s all about weighing what you value. It’s a bad time for a lot of people. The fact that you’re thinking about it is great.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7g0jur wrote
West is more expensive than east.
julietteskyerose t1_j7g0ud2 wrote
Definitely not. Maybe north east is better but I’m in the middle of some the largest cities in the country. Maybe you’re in Pittsburgh
artificialavocado t1_j7f5zrf wrote
Yeah I know they really should do another round of PPP handouts. It will all trickle down eventually right?
Kfrr t1_j7f64jc wrote
Lol. Definitely not. Fucking laughable program that was.
I'm excited to see if these companies ever get audited for where the funds went.
artificialavocado t1_j7f6g1m wrote
Doubtful. There is no mechanism even in place my understanding it was outside of the IRS jurisdiction. It was a handout to placate the petty bourgeois.
Hoppiness83 t1_j7fb6ef wrote
Yeah, paying minimum wage workers 2 to 3x or more what they were making is so Bourgeois. 🙄
artificialavocado t1_j7fejqq wrote
You guys seem to think it is some right handed down from God to own a shitty restaurant or small business. Nobody has a “right” to profit. If people aren’t being paid an amount they can live on then it has no point of existing. I’m not sure why this is so controversial.
dippin20s t1_j7fhi2q wrote
exactly. if you’re a business owner and can’t pay your employees close your business. you’ve failed
and when i say pay i don’t mean 7 dollars.
Luvs2spooge89 t1_j7fdsoo wrote
Yea except that didn’t happen in like 2/3rds of the situations. 66% of business PPP loans never made it into the hands of the laborers
[deleted] t1_j7fh1xn wrote
[deleted]
ODDBOY90 OP t1_j7f1fws wrote
you know what your right. i got to stop being so passive. thats my problem and i end up getting screwed. thanks man i needed that. btw i take accountability its just somethings i really cant control, like with health, stupidity from others, theft, etc etc.
Initial-Masterpiece8 t1_j7fbpdd wrote
People think telling a starving man to eat less is good advice :(
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j7gpyce wrote
Have you ever tried to "take some serious initiative" and move out of a dead end town? Just wondering.
Nowdays if you want to move from nowheresville PA to Pittsburgh, like I did a long time ago, you're looking at first and last month's rent and a security deposit usually equal to another month's rent to move in. Median rent in Pittsburgh is $1462 right now.
So over $4k just to move into an apartment, in a place where you have no support network and don't know anyone. That's not even counting moving costs or finding a job.
If jobs in Tamaqua paid well enough to save up that much, you wouldn't need to move to where the jobs are.
Kfrr t1_j7hj35d wrote
I really think you should read the 15 comments down this chain that I've posted.
You know how they say people live 1000 lives?
That's me. I've lived 1000 lives and have 1000 more to go.
I'm from a poor family in Fayette county and I bet my dog has seen more of the world than most people you know.
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j7hkdf7 wrote
I don't give a hot wet fuck about your life, I'm saying that leaving a dead-end town takes a lot more than "serious initiative" nowadays. You're making it sound simpler than it is.
Kfrr t1_j7hmsv8 wrote
It actually doesn't. Every major ski resort and cruise line in the US will house you and pay you. Just between these two simple mentions you have a year's worth of work every single year for as many years as it takes to build a nest egg of cash without needing to buy or rent.
Staying put, buying and renting is the simple life*
Wow. You built a family and bought a house. Way to think outside the box.
Tourism is free housing and if you're in the service industry, an insane amount of money.
You should try speaking from experience rather than inexperience.
A shallow closed mind isn't something you should be carrying around "nowadays".
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j7hn68c wrote
That's nice, a lot of people don't want to work in the service industry because it's a dead-end career, rife with substance abuse, and your life experiences do not apply to everyone else.
You should try speaking from experience rather than inexperience about other peoples' lives.
Kfrr t1_j7hpluz wrote
I'm quite literally speaking from experience. Working seasonal jobs that offered housing broke me out of my hometown and has allowed me to travel the world while still maxing my IRA and over-investing for retirement.
Still don't make enough money to actually afford a child a child though, and I do pretty damn well these days.
It's a shame that all of the unintelligent and underprepared people are the ones that keep popping out children and bitching about socioeconomic hardship when they came into parenting without a plan in the first place. Most parents can't even contribute to a 529 for fucks sake.
Buncha dumb people we have walking around this planet.
... Are you one of those people, by chance?
69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j7hqapu wrote
Most people do not want to live in their car while working at Ohiopyle, or sling drinks on a cruise ship for years. That's a dead-end career. It worked for you. Most people want more out of life.
Kfrr t1_j7hr38u wrote
How's it dead end if it maxed my IRA and 401k contributions every year while still allowing money to toy with in the market...?
It's free housing and massive money to break you out of your hometown. You don't have to do it for life, but you open a lot of doors, meet a lot of people and are granted a free ticket out of a shit town so you can breathe and figure out if you want to learn coding or how to fly an airplane.
I chose airplanes. Wanna know what it feels like the first time you pull the yoke and leave a runway? Sounds pretty cool doesn't it?
You can do it.
Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments