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friskimykitty t1_ja9r50d wrote

I sincerely hope he recovers and gets back to the senate soon. But even if he is forced to resign due to his health issues, at least he saved us from the snake oil salesman.

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IamSauerKraut t1_ja9v1ay wrote

>Democrats essentially forced this poor guy to run at the expense of his physical and mental well-being, just to beat Oz.

No one forced Fetterman to do anything. Unlike too many of the GQP coterie, he is a free thinker operating within his own, free, sphere.

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TreeMac12 t1_jaciq5n wrote

>he is a free thinker operating within his own, free, sphere

His parents paid for his rent for 20+ years. That was his "free" sphere.

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IamSauerKraut t1_jactxg6 wrote

>His parents paid for his rent for 20+ years

Did they? Not seeing how that has anything to do with him being a free thinker and, I suspect, neither do you. Time for you to climb out of your mother's basement. No 50-y.o. man should be living there.

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ashleyorelse t1_jad0v0m wrote

And Dr. Oz conned people out of money to help pay his expenses.

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jwt155 t1_jaan6mz wrote

Close to $160 Million dollars was spent on Fetterman’s campaign.

Money like that isn’t spent on a guy who’s only running for himself.

And if Fetterman is such a free thinker, then why did he shamefully lie in front of a national audience during his only Senate Debate with Oz about his views on fracking, claiming he’s always been pro fracking when there’s mountains of video and articles refuting that? Shouldn’t liberals who are anti fracking feel betrayed?

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Zenith2017 t1_jacs5oh wrote

Asking why Fetterman flipped the position on fracking is a valid and worthy question, but not when it's a non-sequitur

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jwt155 t1_jactlrt wrote

Free thinking and honest people speak the truth regardless of the situation.

Fetterman lied multiple times during his debate with Oz, highlighted with his blatant lie regarding fracking, even when he was directly confronted with his own words by the panelist.

The obvious answer is that Fetterman is just like any other politician, and once thrusted onto the statewide and national stage/spotlight he was incentivized to lie about his record and instead take stances that would make him more electable.

This directly negates the idea that he’s a free thinker operating in his own world, he’s a slimy politician like the rest of them and was willing to say and do whatever it took to get elected, including lying about pivotal parts of his record regarding fracking because he knew admitting his pro fracking stance would be detrimental to his campaign in PA, a state that has many jobs related to oil and gas.

If Yinz honestly think a man that was supported by $160M, one of the largest war chests for a senate race in the history of the country, is somehow different then every other politician, then I have a bridge to sell you.

People don’t buy off politicians who can’t be bought…

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Zenith2017 t1_jacy6ku wrote

Yeah, I mean I pretty much agree in spirit. Fetterman is no different than any other politician. I voted for him very reluctantly

Edit - still don't feel it's really related to the OP but the point stands anyway. Nobody forced Fetterman to do anything he's a big boy. Let's not do a cult of personality y'all

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burritoace t1_jac61s3 wrote

Lol damn you are awful

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jwt155 t1_jacr1pu wrote

Glad to know you think facts are awful, explains why you’re wrong on just about everything.

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burritoace t1_jacufnp wrote

You're a real wingnut, just firing off half-cocked insinuations all over the place. Not sure why you imagine anybody would take you seriously. I bet all the other fuckin morons over at the conservative subs love it though

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jwt155 t1_jacv02v wrote

You’re excellent at projecting, you do a great job describing yourself when speaking about others, it’s truly uncanny.

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IamSauerKraut t1_jaax0mh wrote

>No one forced Fetterman to do anything.

Repeating it for the slow thinkers in the back.

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egJohn t1_ja9rvlv wrote

eh. Lamb would have beat Oz

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ewyorksockexchange t1_ja9vcy3 wrote

I’m not sure that’s true. Lamb would have been a solid candidate, but Fetterman had the best name recognition statewide, especially once the primary was complete. The margin was slim enough in that race that a candidate change between the primary and general could have made the difference.

That said, the guy you’re replying to seems to think Fetterman had no agency as the duly nominated candidate for US Senate. If he was being pushed to run just to secure a seat and not because of any personal ambition or sense of service, wouldn’t he have already retired and allowed the governor to choose a replacement?

Also depression is a common symptom in stroke victims as they go through the recovery process. No matter if he won or lost, it sounds like he’d be dealing with clinical depression in the aftermath of the stroke.

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HairyHouse2 t1_jaafhfd wrote

Lamb supported Trump's wall. And the first bill he signed off on was one his (bank lobbyist) father was lobbying on.

When you do a little bit of research, it's obvious lamb is a scumbag and we can do better

Edit: I can already tell that were going to end up talking about something other than Lambs indefensible votes, if there is even a reply. Glad we can just downvote people for daring to criticize corporate trash

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egJohn t1_jacj78c wrote

yes Lamb is a corporatist. but that's not what anyone was talking about in this thread.

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HairyHouse2 t1_jacnsuy wrote

"Lamb would have been a solid candidate"

Nah fuck that

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egJohn t1_jacpjnd wrote

given the Pennsylvania electorate. he might be significantly to the Right of my politics but so is Pennsylvania as a whole.

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HairyHouse2 t1_jadubtv wrote

Not really considering Fetterman won. It's just people like you are gullible when it comes to thinking right wing Dems are more electable.

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tonytroz t1_jaaeyvc wrote

>If he was being pushed to run just to secure a seat and not because of any personal ambition or sense of service, wouldn’t he have already retired and allowed the governor to choose a replacement?

No that would be an absolute disaster. The governor doesn't choose a replacement for the next 6 years. They just select a replacement until a special election this November. It would give the GOP a do-over with a better candidate against what would likely be Lamb who already lost the primary.

With Sinema leaving the Democratic party that means the Democrats could theoretically lose control of the Senate (should Sinema change who she caucuses with) in a year that wouldn't normally be possible. That would be mayhem for Biden's reelection campaign and absolute chaos if a liberal Supreme Court Justice died or retired next year.

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ashleyorelse t1_jad1t1q wrote

Any decent candidate would have beaten Oz as long as people came out to vote, and they would have won because Oz is a terrible con artist.

People like Oz only run and think they can win because the greatest con artist of all time found the needle in the electoral college haystack and barely won an election he had no business winning.

So then every TV con artist thinks they can do it too. Well, PA didn't have an electoral college, and the better candidate won.

TL;DR - If you're not in a ruby red district or state, there aren't enough people who will buy your snake oil for you to win.

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ThunderySleep t1_jaa1edv wrote

You know the subreddit's still totally legit when more than half the comments are collapsed or removed.

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artisanrox t1_jab2hn9 wrote

Hoping everyone with depression can get the help and health care Fetterman's getting.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_jacdt18 wrote

We can't, because we aren't rich and/or politically connected enough to access that tier of care that he and others in that level of society get.

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artisanrox t1_jacrxqp wrote

That's what I mean tho....I hope we can come together just long enough to get some national health care in like Congress has.

But if the situation in East Plaestine is any indication, that won't happen for a long time yet. 🤦

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IrrumaboMalum t1_jact1i3 wrote

>That's what I mean tho....I hope we can come together just long enough to get some national health care in like Congress has.

We would be the first country in the world to achieve that. It would be amazing.

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artisanrox t1_jacuq73 wrote

???

Literally every major first-world country has some form of universal/national health care.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_jacvv64 wrote

They do, but it's still tiered. The rich/famous and politically connected receive better care in better facilities than the common masses get in the public facilities.

There is no country to my knowledge where you or I would receive the same level or quality of care as a celebrity, a rich business magnate or a politician.

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artisanrox t1_jacw8at wrote

It's not tiered in many countries. Especially in places like Japan.

Of course having lots of money will get you better health care wherever you are but let's not pretend that we're not like 100 years behind the rest of the world.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_jad43gz wrote

We're ahead of much of the world - the US leads the world in medical discoveries involving new test procedures, medications and test equipment.

https://sterlingmedicaldevices.com/thought-leadership/medical-device-design-industry-blog/what-country-leads-the-world-in-medical-innovation/#:~:text=The%20answer%20to%20the%20question,has%20ties%20to%20the%20U.S.

Now our delivery of that healthcare to the people of the US needs a lot of work, true. We lag behind the rest of the world in that aspect.

In that aspect, we need to do better. A lot better.

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artisanrox t1_jad82fq wrote

>the US leads the world in medical discoveries involving new test procedures, medications and test equipment.

This I'm obviously completely not interested in, in this context.

>In that aspect, we need to do better. A lot better.

Right.

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jillianpikora t1_ja9kvzi wrote

Thanks for sharing! I was just wondering if a status update would be released soon.

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DinoReads t1_jaazibd wrote

Best wishes to Senator Fetterman and his whole family and staff. He will be up and running in DC in no time. Much respect for his decision for self care.

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oldschoolskater t1_jaaej0d wrote

I may be wrong but don't they only keep you in the hospital if you are at risk for hurting yourself or others? Otherwise they figure out medication, set you up with therapy and send you home.

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h0pedivision t1_jab8idz wrote

For the typical person, yes, because that’s all insurance will approve. I’m sure the healthcare benefits for congressmen are a lot better than the rest of the population.

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defusted t1_jaahtxm wrote

There are a lot of things that factor in, but short answer is no, they can keep you/you can stay

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throwawayamd14 t1_jacp6tj wrote

Surely a member of congress would understand the optics here and not go inpatient unless it was serious. My conspiracy theory is that it’s actually about his stroke and recovery but they don’t want to say that

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throwaway01002030405 t1_jad61dn wrote

Depression is an very common after effect of strokes, so yes it’s about his stroke, and it has been mentioned as such.

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goplantagarden t1_jaaf30s wrote

Conservatives still crying bitter tears of defeat.😭

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CleverName550 t1_jab12ma wrote

Unironically yes we did save the state and country.

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ThunderySleep t1_jabezwu wrote

Been grocery shopping lately?

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USGrant54 t1_jabz2yx wrote

Did you vote for Trump’s massive debt spend and tariffs?

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Bicycle-Seat t1_jac9n89 wrote

You aren’t allowed to talk about the BidenFlation in Reddit. /s

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browneyedgirlpie t1_jaczr0e wrote

Ah yes, the incredibly powerful Biden, whose same inflation has decimated economies of most other countries too 🙄

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RosaelenaLehr1975 t1_jadxlky wrote

Depression is an ongoing battle, but with such a supportive environment around him I think he'll do just fine. Keep on fighting the great fight for all of us!

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Adm_Mitthrawnuruodo t1_jab7bqg wrote

If there’s anything I’ve learned from living with crippling depression my entire life, it’s that he’ll be completely recovered after his inpatient stay.

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higher_limits t1_jad7js9 wrote

Dude just needs a heroic dose of shrooms. Could of saved a few weeks in the hospital and the bullshit pills he’ll probably be dependent on for the next however the fuck long messing around with dosages, inconsistencies, side effects etc etc.

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PA1985 t1_jacc6a8 wrote

I’m sure Gisele was relieved to hear this while vacationing in Canada.

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Totallynotacylon t1_jaasr4b wrote

After the debate I almost didn’t vote in the senate contest. I was so pissed at the Democratic Party, I still feel like we’ve been tricked. I couldn’t vote for Oz, but Fetterman’s debate performance was painful to watch. It was so obvious he had a long road to recovery ahead. I almost wanted to write in Connor Lamb. At that point, I knew voting for Fetterman was voting for an empty suit to hold office long enough until a replacement could be found. Of course when I voiced my concerns in the WaPo comment section, I was called an idiot. I’m sure I’ll be called an idiot here too. Whatever, I’m probably going to switch my voter registration to Republican soon anyways. This was the last of many last straws.

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DripDropFaucet t1_jaax51h wrote

I mean I voted for the dude on his principles. A majority of the job is getting elected and voting for things that your constituents want (ideally). I think even in his state he’s been able to do both. If he doesn’t start showing signs of improvement soon though I’d also hope that he step down for someone better suited for those responsibilities.

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Totallynotacylon t1_jab56pp wrote

Being a senator is more than just voting, though. You also represent your constituents interests in subcommittees and by forming alliances with other members and submitting bills and a lot of other things. How can he do that in his current state? I feel like the party is going to keep covering for him until it’s convenient to drop him. He should resign now and focus on his health and his family. Downvote away, but you all know I’m right.

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ChrissyLove13 t1_jaav9jw wrote

You are making too much sense...prepare to be attacked by the gaslighters.

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artisanrox t1_jab2coz wrote

>I’m probably going to switch my voter registration to Republican soon anyways.

Nobody needs psychological counseling in Gilead, I guess, prayze the Lard!

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CleverName550 t1_jab21qo wrote

I understand. I'm living in Georgia currently. So when the GOP ran Hershel Walker who is not particularly intelligent compounded by the likelihood of brain damage from football all because Trump wanted him, I felt nauseous. I couldn't vote for that clown. At least Fetterman was fully functioning when he entered the Democratic primary.

I changed my voter registration to Democrat after this past election. Trump and Trumpism were the first strike. The GOP blocking the insulin cap for all Americans was the second strike. And nominating a man clearly unqualified for Georgia's senate seat was the third strike. So I'm out of the GOP. Thank God Kemp isn't a full blown Trumper though. Kemp and Raffensberger won BECAUSE they demonstrated independence from Trump. Walker clung to Trump.

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CleverName550 t1_jaeqtaf wrote

You have reading comprehension problems. All my points were critiques of REPUBLICANS and not Democrats. I said I was disgusted Republicans voted to strip an insulin cap for all. I said I changed my voter registration to Democratic since then. If you read carefully I am making a counterpoint to the person I was responding to who was blaming Democrats for everything. I genuinely don't understand how you read my post and didn't understand it was a critique of the Republican Party in its entirety going strike by strike until the GOP struck out entirely with me.

Lastly, I can post wherever I want. I'm from Philly. Well, Delco to be specific.

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CleverName550 t1_jaewh8c wrote

Hershel Walker is dumb as rocks and a clown who I'd never vote for. He also likely has brain damage from his football career.

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Electrical_Skirt21 t1_jaaejuf wrote

So is he on the path to recovery or is he brain dead and running out the clock so they can appoint his wife?

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Escobarhippo t1_ja9tb5b wrote

> wish him the best in recovery

Lol sure you do

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_jaa2e4z wrote

You have a different opinion so you must be hateful and evil

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Routine-Arrival3567 t1_jaab6sv wrote

When a person determined their identity from their political ideology, then any political disagreement becomes an attack on the person. This is why the population is currently artificially polarized and why compromise is impossible, to do so is the same as agreeing entirely with everything the person believes. The world has experienced many episodes in history where such polarization has occurred, it never ended well, which is why I'm hoping to see a return to rational realism and a shift away from ideological idealism based on arguments propped up by emotional premises that are supported by demonizing objective facts. I still have faith, mostly because I have children who are being taught valid logic and critical thinking are paramount and supreme to all arguments that fight to remove such nuances to so many arguments being thrust upon them outside of our four walls.

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_jaa291k wrote

not everyone shares your social media induced mental illness causing you to wish ill on people not aligned with you politically

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Thisfuckingwebsite t1_jaagk2o wrote

/u/bidensniffsyakids

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_jaandvj wrote

yup, that's about the level of thought you're capable of

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Thisfuckingwebsite t1_jaavmzi wrote

When you receive your ban from this sub, I want you to know it was me

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adminsarepedoslol t1_jacp86r wrote

>bragging about tattling on someone for disagreeing with you

Reddit moment

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Indiana_Jawnz t1_jab341t wrote

Can't wait for this sub to become even more of a circle jerk. 😂

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throwawayamd14 t1_ja9l7tq wrote

Just what this state needed lol

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ImperialIIClass OP t1_ja9lehj wrote

Yes, it's so terrible for another human being to be recovering.

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whomp1970 t1_ja9u1pi wrote

For what it's worth, I tend to agree with you.

I was all for the guy. I was so happy he won.

But I knew that the stroke was not a good omen. I knew that stroke victims are often never the same. I knew that depression and emotional changes often occur.

So I always thought he was headed for worse. I knew it was coming.

It makes it all the more sad, because I really believed in what he stood for, and I was hopeful that he was going to make some great changes.

He still may. But the odds are not in his favor.

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BidenSniffsYaKids t1_jaa1xc5 wrote

"Giving a fuck" about someone and questioning their ability are not mutually exclusive. Why are you so angry btw? Seems pretty overboard.

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throwawayamd14 t1_ja9oach wrote

I was told during the election that fetterman was doing great and would be able to represent Pennsylvania citizens. If we had a situation like a train derailment carrying toxic chemicals we would have fetterman to go to bat for us and get us what we needed from the feds.

Then he gets in office and suddenly it was all fake, and I’m the bad guy for being upset over that?

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alehansolo21 t1_ja9ytgq wrote

>Then he gets in office and suddenly it was all fake

Dude its been 2 months and he had a health emergency. Maybe actually give him some time to be a senator before jumping to such a conclusion

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_jab4yio wrote

I have good news for you, the feds are already on it. The Governor of Ohio has already stated that President Biden told him they will give him anything he needs. You no longer have to worry about John Fetterman taking care of this. All the Governor has to do is ask and he will get the support.

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PaApprazer t1_ja9nxkv wrote

The “state” doesn’t need him but the citizens could use some representation. It was a bit lacking under Toomey or did you forget?

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throwawayamd14 t1_ja9ocx1 wrote

Lol I am not a Republican voter

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PaApprazer t1_ja9osdi wrote

Lol, didn’t say you were. Doesn’t change the fact that if you are a Pennsylvanian, Toomey was your senator for 3 fucking terms. What a waste of anyone’s vote

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throwawayamd14 t1_ja9ozwv wrote

And? That was then, this is now. I don’t really care about whataboutism from the past. PA probably some shitty senators in the 1800s too. Who cares, it’s in the past

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PaApprazer t1_ja9pob4 wrote

Toomey was just last year, dude. Chill with the drama.

Yes, this is now! Time for someone that cares about the citizens of Pennsylvania to play a big role in shaping legislation at the national level!

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throwawayamd14 t1_ja9pzpi wrote

Don’t think he’s shaping legislation too much considering he’s still recovering from a stroke and is current inpatient in a psych-ward

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SamuelLCompassion t1_ja9w2eq wrote

Which legislative discussions or votes are you most disappointed that he's missed so far?

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PaApprazer t1_jaaawkz wrote

TIL Walter Reed National Military Medical Center = psych-ward! 🫡

Considering he just started a 6 year term, I’m good

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throwawayamd14 t1_jaco39t wrote

Yes, it’s clear you were trying to mock me but Walter Reed does have an in patient psychiatric ward. It is called “Adult Acute Psychiatric Unit” and it’s in 7 west.

It’s for in patient psychiatric treatment which is what his team said he was getting.

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