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friskimykitty t1_ja9r50d wrote

I sincerely hope he recovers and gets back to the senate soon. But even if he is forced to resign due to his health issues, at least he saved us from the snake oil salesman.

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IamSauerKraut t1_ja9v1ay wrote

>Democrats essentially forced this poor guy to run at the expense of his physical and mental well-being, just to beat Oz.

No one forced Fetterman to do anything. Unlike too many of the GQP coterie, he is a free thinker operating within his own, free, sphere.

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TreeMac12 t1_jaciq5n wrote

>he is a free thinker operating within his own, free, sphere

His parents paid for his rent for 20+ years. That was his "free" sphere.

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IamSauerKraut t1_jactxg6 wrote

>His parents paid for his rent for 20+ years

Did they? Not seeing how that has anything to do with him being a free thinker and, I suspect, neither do you. Time for you to climb out of your mother's basement. No 50-y.o. man should be living there.

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ashleyorelse t1_jad0v0m wrote

And Dr. Oz conned people out of money to help pay his expenses.

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jwt155 t1_jaan6mz wrote

Close to $160 Million dollars was spent on Fetterman’s campaign.

Money like that isn’t spent on a guy who’s only running for himself.

And if Fetterman is such a free thinker, then why did he shamefully lie in front of a national audience during his only Senate Debate with Oz about his views on fracking, claiming he’s always been pro fracking when there’s mountains of video and articles refuting that? Shouldn’t liberals who are anti fracking feel betrayed?

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Zenith2017 t1_jacs5oh wrote

Asking why Fetterman flipped the position on fracking is a valid and worthy question, but not when it's a non-sequitur

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jwt155 t1_jactlrt wrote

Free thinking and honest people speak the truth regardless of the situation.

Fetterman lied multiple times during his debate with Oz, highlighted with his blatant lie regarding fracking, even when he was directly confronted with his own words by the panelist.

The obvious answer is that Fetterman is just like any other politician, and once thrusted onto the statewide and national stage/spotlight he was incentivized to lie about his record and instead take stances that would make him more electable.

This directly negates the idea that he’s a free thinker operating in his own world, he’s a slimy politician like the rest of them and was willing to say and do whatever it took to get elected, including lying about pivotal parts of his record regarding fracking because he knew admitting his pro fracking stance would be detrimental to his campaign in PA, a state that has many jobs related to oil and gas.

If Yinz honestly think a man that was supported by $160M, one of the largest war chests for a senate race in the history of the country, is somehow different then every other politician, then I have a bridge to sell you.

People don’t buy off politicians who can’t be bought…

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Zenith2017 t1_jacy6ku wrote

Yeah, I mean I pretty much agree in spirit. Fetterman is no different than any other politician. I voted for him very reluctantly

Edit - still don't feel it's really related to the OP but the point stands anyway. Nobody forced Fetterman to do anything he's a big boy. Let's not do a cult of personality y'all

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burritoace t1_jac61s3 wrote

Lol damn you are awful

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jwt155 t1_jacr1pu wrote

Glad to know you think facts are awful, explains why you’re wrong on just about everything.

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burritoace t1_jacufnp wrote

You're a real wingnut, just firing off half-cocked insinuations all over the place. Not sure why you imagine anybody would take you seriously. I bet all the other fuckin morons over at the conservative subs love it though

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jwt155 t1_jacv02v wrote

You’re excellent at projecting, you do a great job describing yourself when speaking about others, it’s truly uncanny.

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IamSauerKraut t1_jaax0mh wrote

>No one forced Fetterman to do anything.

Repeating it for the slow thinkers in the back.

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egJohn t1_ja9rvlv wrote

eh. Lamb would have beat Oz

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ewyorksockexchange t1_ja9vcy3 wrote

I’m not sure that’s true. Lamb would have been a solid candidate, but Fetterman had the best name recognition statewide, especially once the primary was complete. The margin was slim enough in that race that a candidate change between the primary and general could have made the difference.

That said, the guy you’re replying to seems to think Fetterman had no agency as the duly nominated candidate for US Senate. If he was being pushed to run just to secure a seat and not because of any personal ambition or sense of service, wouldn’t he have already retired and allowed the governor to choose a replacement?

Also depression is a common symptom in stroke victims as they go through the recovery process. No matter if he won or lost, it sounds like he’d be dealing with clinical depression in the aftermath of the stroke.

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HairyHouse2 t1_jaafhfd wrote

Lamb supported Trump's wall. And the first bill he signed off on was one his (bank lobbyist) father was lobbying on.

When you do a little bit of research, it's obvious lamb is a scumbag and we can do better

Edit: I can already tell that were going to end up talking about something other than Lambs indefensible votes, if there is even a reply. Glad we can just downvote people for daring to criticize corporate trash

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egJohn t1_jacj78c wrote

yes Lamb is a corporatist. but that's not what anyone was talking about in this thread.

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HairyHouse2 t1_jacnsuy wrote

"Lamb would have been a solid candidate"

Nah fuck that

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egJohn t1_jacpjnd wrote

given the Pennsylvania electorate. he might be significantly to the Right of my politics but so is Pennsylvania as a whole.

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HairyHouse2 t1_jadubtv wrote

Not really considering Fetterman won. It's just people like you are gullible when it comes to thinking right wing Dems are more electable.

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tonytroz t1_jaaeyvc wrote

>If he was being pushed to run just to secure a seat and not because of any personal ambition or sense of service, wouldn’t he have already retired and allowed the governor to choose a replacement?

No that would be an absolute disaster. The governor doesn't choose a replacement for the next 6 years. They just select a replacement until a special election this November. It would give the GOP a do-over with a better candidate against what would likely be Lamb who already lost the primary.

With Sinema leaving the Democratic party that means the Democrats could theoretically lose control of the Senate (should Sinema change who she caucuses with) in a year that wouldn't normally be possible. That would be mayhem for Biden's reelection campaign and absolute chaos if a liberal Supreme Court Justice died or retired next year.

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ashleyorelse t1_jad1t1q wrote

Any decent candidate would have beaten Oz as long as people came out to vote, and they would have won because Oz is a terrible con artist.

People like Oz only run and think they can win because the greatest con artist of all time found the needle in the electoral college haystack and barely won an election he had no business winning.

So then every TV con artist thinks they can do it too. Well, PA didn't have an electoral college, and the better candidate won.

TL;DR - If you're not in a ruby red district or state, there aren't enough people who will buy your snake oil for you to win.

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