hsavvy t1_j7xr85n wrote
Reply to comment by Accomplished_Pie_153 in Temple University deactivated health insurance of all striking graduate workers today by TransFattyAcid
No idea what the point of this rant was tbh
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xsbyv wrote
my point is that temple should do whatever the hell they want. just like bob's donuts should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.
why are people always getting angry at the wrong person? You had the people to blame. The ones that could have fixed this decades ago and chose not to fix it. In fact, if they really, really, really wanted to, they could fix it this month.
Nezgul t1_j7xvk6b wrote
>just like bob's donuts should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want.
no the absolute fuck they should not. jesus christ, this kind of rhetoric is how we get back to having eight year olds in industrial factories.
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xw4el wrote
yes, because i was so talking about child labor.
i'm talking about being able to fire anyone you want, whenever you want, and not have to worry about whether the person you fired has enough insulin to last them.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xxi91 wrote
>because i was so talking about child labor.
Temple is using grad students as cheap labor, so you are almost on topic.
Yankiwi17273 t1_j7y7op1 wrote
You are actually making a very good case for government intervention here. As you are pointing out, in a totally free market system with an inherent monopoly (which GA positions often de facto become), it is 100% within the employer’s best interests to screw over the employee as much as they can.
But that is exactly why the government should be able to step in to even the power dynamics between employer and employee, especially during strikes, unionization, and contract negotiations.
Thank you for illustrating that point so vividly.
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7ycuwn wrote
but it's NOT in the employer's best interest to screw over the employees.... IF they have a genuine desire to keep their reputation so they can hire the best employees in the future.
it might be best interest in terms of SHORT TERM financial gain, which, too, is a problem.
forgetting about the free market, there is a real, visible problem: Young folks who can't get insulin really do drop dead every year.
Should government really be able to step in and save its dying young citizens? By just straight up buying them some insulin, without waiting for the paperwork or the insurance to kick in at a new job?
Yankiwi17273 t1_j7zy4fd wrote
Would you prefer people dying just because they don’t have the health insurance to by a horribly marked up drug?
Nezgul t1_j7xwe2s wrote
>yes, because i was so talking about child labor.
you said "whatever, whenever."
>i'm talking about being able to fire anyone you want, whenever you want, and not have to worry about whether the person you fired has enough insulin to last them.
are you reading what you're typing
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xwrji wrote
yeah, and you should read the context of this discussion, which is Insurance.
did you also believe that I was arguing that donut shop owners should be able to kill people and commit fraud and sell heroin as long as they are in their shop?
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xxlaj wrote
>yeah, and you should read the context of this discussion, which is Insurance.
>
>did you also believe that I was arguing that donut shop owners
Wait... topic is insurance but... donuts?
Accomplished_Pie_153 t1_j7xy3qp wrote
some donut shop owners get some type of benefits for their employees, too.
it's interesting you think that is weird. DONUTS!?
and that's my point. It IS weird that one might expect ANY EMPLOYER to have to deal with their employee's insulin supply, and that there can be a real consequence if, say, the donut shop closes for good.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7zg3jg wrote
Dollars to donuts says the donuts have nothing to do with Temple using grad students as chattel.
sirdrinksal0t t1_j7zomt3 wrote
You’re so close to understanding the issue here, yea Bob’s whatever the fuck shop should be able to fire whoever they want without having to worry about if they have enough insulin to live because health care should not be held over your head by your employer as leverage
IamSauerKraut t1_j7xxf9p wrote
>my point is
When the price of donuts goes up, eat more pie.
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