Central Bucks SD playing the victim card after losing their communications firmSubmitted by Pennzingers t3_11a0zl9 in Pennsylvania
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_j9tl4yk wrote
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>Gender identity and sexual orientation are not belief systems. And by conflating Pride flags with the expression of religious or political affiliations, the majority members of the school board are discriminating against LGBTQ students. The purpose of Pride flags in classrooms is not to endorse an identity, but to offer safety.
That's an incredibly weak argument. It is not dangerous to ban Pride Flags from the school classroom.
Sherlockbones11 t1_j9tm2xi wrote
As an LGBTQ person who almost killed herself multiple times over what I later found out was just a complete and utter lack of representation and a feeling of safety in places I spent the most of my time as a child (i.e. school), and per countless peer reviewed research studies from prominent institutions - I will have to not only disagree with you but inform you with sources and facts that you or are dangerously wrong about this. Please lower your voice before you get someone killed.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_j9tpdt2 wrote
>who almost killed herself multiple times over what I later found out was just a complete and utter lack of representation
When I was 19 I attempted suicide and was found bleeding out in a bath tub. I ended up in-patient for several months. It was a long road to recovery, and there were times I thought and believed "if only X was different this wouldn't have happened" but the reality is, while there were external pressures it was an internal struggle made up of many factors. Suicidal depression is not single faceted, and while you may contribute the lack of Pride Flags in your school classroom, it isn't why you almost killed yourself. That simplifies your situation, I wish you the best on the road of recovery.
RuinTop1965 t1_j9twxm1 wrote
yikes you really are an incredibly awful person
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_j9txk4d wrote
19 year old me would have agreed with that, but I do not think I'm an awful person now that I've spent years on my recovery.
Why do you think I'm awful?
susinpgh t1_j9tr6fh wrote
I don't see the comment that you are quoting here. And the comment you are replying to has not been edited.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_j9trb6g wrote
That's from the article they shared justifying why it's dangerous to remove Pride Flags from classrooms.
susinpgh t1_j9trkx4 wrote
Ah, okay. But still, it's not saying that removing them is dangerous. I think of this the same way that things changed when POC were included in graphics in books and posters. It's an acknowledgement that you are seen.
I don't think the schools can really do much more than that, unless it's an intervention in a situation that endangers a student.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_j9tx797 wrote
Yeah, you're correct it's not fair for me to say they called it dangerous when they didn't use that word. The article is still hysterical about it imo:
>The Pride flag ban in classrooms is already having chilling consequences, not just on the LGBTQ community.
I understand your point of "feeling seen" but that does sound like the Pride Flag exists to endorse an identity which is exactly what the article says it doesn't do.
susinpgh t1_j9txu1o wrote
Yes, I guess I've moved the conversation, didn't I? FWIW, I'm sorry for what you went through. I don't think a flag would have helped in your situation. I hope you are able to heal.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_j9tyats wrote
Moved how?
But I agree, a flag wouldn't have changed my internal turmoil. It took years of consistent and intentional actions and redirection. I still have low days of course, who doesn't? Pain and discomfort is a part of the human experience.
susinpgh t1_j9u1c4o wrote
Not everyone. You are justified. I always think of this scene from As Good As It Gets, when Jack Nicholson talks about how a lot of peoples' stories are all good times, noodle salad. It's a way old movie, but I still really love it.
Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_j9u5yfw wrote
I love that movie (and specifically that scene) as well! I think that's definitely true, there are people who have great enjoyable lives and its all noodle salad, but even they have bad days and tough times. Every person that has ever lived has felt some level of pain, but certainly some muh less than others.
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