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byndrsn OP t1_j9tsv17 wrote

This is pretty well known however we were just notified yesterday that cuts will also affect our local food bank and they will limit the number of clients that can be served at our food pantry, limiting the food the pantry can purchase discounted.

So people are losing money to buy food and the food pantrys will not have enough to cover the loss.

And all those politicians that say 'the charities can take care of the people' are a-holes.

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--Cr1imsoN-- t1_j9umlej wrote

Woooow... who in the fuck can endorse this kind of stuff? Okay, so what if you have an issue with SNAP, but now even the food pantries are going to have less supplies??? Those agencies are important! They often provide disaster relief. So what happens if a storm rolls through PA and folks can't get food?

Also, on another note, who is responsible for gutting these programs? I need specifics so I know who to [Removed by Reddit].

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tinymonesters t1_j9vdngq wrote

The consolidated appropriations act of 2023 is the law. So, both senate and congress as a whole passed it.

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Wordnerdinthecity t1_j9u9r7y wrote

The cruelty is the point. The entire social safety net is two tin cans tied together by string at this point.

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browneyedgirlpie t1_j9ufamp wrote

That's so the tin foil hat types can listen in to make sure that there isn't one single person getting aid that they don't believe qualifies. They would rather starve hundreds than help one who doesn't need it.

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RealLiveKindness t1_j9vb7eh wrote

Farmers will feel it too when the government stops buying.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_ja5aflz wrote

Farming isn't done in the 21st century by yeoman farming families, it's done by multinational corporations.

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RealLiveKindness t1_ja5i5s6 wrote

Yep all the little guys have been forced out. 50 years ago when I was a student I’d work on family dairy farms. Sadly the last of them have disappeared. Nothing like cutting silage spreading manure or getting kicked by a cow.

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ArcherChase t1_ja8jr92 wrote

Factory farming is an absolute destructive force for health, humane treatment of animals, the environment, and the economy of small farming. The damage isn't even close to being seen

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j9v76k6 wrote

Just wait until they start throwing people off the expanded Medicaid rolls come (IIRC) April. Rural healthcare in this state was heavily dependent on Medicaid before the pandemic and it's even more so now.

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saintofhate t1_j9vnd9p wrote

My wife got noticed that it was ending, I'm very glad she has a job that has health Care as she requires medication to be able to work. The whole system is fucked

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tinymonesters t1_j9vs1wp wrote

The system works well you just have to know how it works. She could get MAWD from the assistance office if she requires health sustaining medicine. It has a premium adjusted at 5% gross income. It's usually cheaper than employees insurance.

Edit: Downvote this all you want. It's a fact. Eligibility requirements were expanded recently and it's insanely easy to qualify for "disabilty" related MA. Source: IMCW for DHS CWOPA.

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lm896 t1_ja4tjbp wrote

I am not sure how easy it is. I have a fairly serious mental illness that is well treated with medication, therapy, self care, etc. However to get approved for mawd my therapist had to write a letter stating I was literally at risk of death via suicide without medication. That's a lot to ask of a provider and a lot for someone with a mental illness to be willing to face/admit with the associated stigma.

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tinymonesters t1_ja56kk2 wrote

They generally aren't interested in that type of statement. They want treatment records, the type they would send if you were transferring your care to them. In my experience they're looking for a reason to approve, not a reason to deny.

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lm896 t1_jaa3132 wrote

They had all my treatment records. I have had the opposite experience that they absolutely look for reasons to deny. It could be the caseworkers/counties involved I suppose.

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tinymonesters t1_jaaeugf wrote

Most likely it's the worker. I can choose if the information is sufficient for review personally. And I do when it's a vague statement like: "(Insert name here) is under my care for (whatever diagnosis)" nope not spending tax money to get a guaranteed denial.

Edit: I have actually literally Never gotten a "denial" it's "I need more information".

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NewYork_607 t1_j9vihu4 wrote

Rural areas vote Republican. So yeah… lol 😂

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TheJediJoker t1_j9vpa2k wrote

And yet Democrats run the whole state

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sg92i t1_j9vsyn4 wrote

> yet Democrats run the whole state

That's ridiculous. The GOP has had a deathgrip on most of Pennsylvania for ages. Look at this chart under "historical party control."

https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_Pennsylvania_state_government

That's a lot of red.

The state senate has been republican forever. The state house is usually republican and just recently turned blue (for the first time in over a decade), by a tiny majority that doesn't mean anything if just a handful of those democrats are right-leaning (which you can almost count on).

Nonetheless: Medicaid and EBT is state/county managed but the feds set most of the rules & funding.

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Kairenne t1_j9w44ud wrote

The Feds set ALL of the rules for those benefits.

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sg92i t1_j9w4hl0 wrote

Not all of the rules. IDK about EBT but there is a lot more variety for medicaid at least than you'd assume once you look at how jurisdiction to jurisdiction differs in terms of dental coverage, or whether medicaid was expanded at all (some states still haven't).

In some states you can't even get dentures under medicaid until you have a mere 4 teeth left.

Also some states allow for medicaid buy-in and some don't.

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TheJediJoker t1_j9vuyez wrote

Ok so my point on it being state run bares no impact on the current changes So it's on the Federal Level? Also mostly ran by Democrats.

But I'll keep reading up on it, I may be missing something

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PinsAndBeetles t1_j9w3zjh wrote

The GOP fought tooth and nail against Medicaid expansion as part of Obamacare. Many red states opted not to allow the income limit for adults without children (yes, including Florida, Texas, and Mississippi) to increase, thus allowing million to go uninsured or underinsured even though the Federal government subsidizes the cost. Even before the House went red even if every single Democrat voted for expanded healthcare (which they likely would) the filibuster doomed the chances of that happening. At a state level PA only opted into Medicaid expansion after Wolf took office, and within a few years 300,000 Pennsylvanians who were otherwise uninsured became eligible for Medicaid. The overall nightmare that is US healthcare will never improve unless half of the people in charge realize that access to healthcare isn’t a handout, it’s an investment in a stronger, healthier population but of course to fund it all their rich friends would need to pay higher taxes.

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tinymonesters t1_j9vbepa wrote

This is the end of the emergency benefits related to COVID. SNAP is supposed to have a sliding scale that decreases benefits as income goes up. For a long time it has been just a binary yes/no because if you're eligible you get the maximum for your household.

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Pink_Slyvie t1_j9vb6zt wrote

People are going to die. One of my besties is trying to feed her family of 6 on $200 a month, it's all they can get because of her disability, and her disability isn't even covering her bills.

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Blexcr0id t1_j9y275l wrote

Oof, that is a tough position to be in. I might be able to subsist on $200 for jut me if I rely on rice and beans and BB's / Grocery Outlet.

Have they looked into state/federal and volunteer organizations for support?

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makingburritos t1_j9vjolw wrote

With food prices I am already struggling to feed my family of four. My grandmother is 87, I am disabled with a five year old, and my mother lives here too. We are going to have a terrible time when this happens 😕

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Dredly t1_j9vli0f wrote

Sadly this isn't even "the start", this is barely a blip on the Republican agenda roadmap.

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Poconosmax t1_j9uwb3q wrote

Amazing that all those people that just got elected don't care about you or your family being able to afford food..

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j9vfjo5 wrote

What are they supposed to do, enact sweeping socialist price controls? If they did that, the Rs would throw a shitfit.
 
These price increases, from food to gasoline to rent and housing and utilities, are price gouging. Probably not a good thing that business can punish the electorate of this country because they only got 95% of what they wanted.

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Badnewz18 t1_j9w4ibj wrote

The politicians don’t care, never have never will

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RealLiveKindness t1_j9vay4n wrote

More inherited issues from the doofus & his doofus party.

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MisterMutton t1_j9wmyyh wrote

I’m a single med student getting $280 a month. I work minimally because school is my number one priority, so about $70-250 a month. Can someone explain what exactly will change?

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EsJaGe t1_j9wst22 wrote

If you qualify for $281 (the max for a 1 person household) based on your income vs. allowable expense deductions, you’ll continue to get that $281 on your monthly SNAP payment day. Whatever you’ve been getting on Payment Day is unfortunately all you’ll receive each month, because its the second payment that was coming at the end of the month that is ending.

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Kairenne t1_j9w6ej7 wrote

Yes, you are right. I’m sorry for my mistake. When I think about it I feel PA took all the extra Medicaid programs they could. I hope that doesn’t change.

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Squashey t1_j9wzdgw wrote

Population reduction in full effect

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PrittedPunes t1_j9ua8tt wrote

I know I will get downvoted to hell, but good! We need even tighter regulations or re-evaluate eligible people. I work in a high volume busy grocery/goods retailer outside Philly and no lie, it seems like everyone and their brother has an EBT card with high balances, most of which can't speak a lick of English to even know what button to hit on the pin pad for food, but are just fine pulling out wads of cash to pay for the items that aren't covered in their order. Or they have a cartload of items clearly going to be used in someones restaurant or bodega. bags of flour, nothing but cases of soda and energy drinks, etc. This occurs so many times a day I can't even keep count. Let me be clear I have zero issues with those that need EBT for those that truly need help, but 90% of the transactions I see are straight up abuse.

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malogan82 t1_j9uumk7 wrote

I didn't downvote you, but I will say that you are making an awful lot of assumptions about these people's lives based on a few minutes of interaction with them that's superficial at best.

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PrittedPunes t1_j9v2emp wrote

I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see someone paying for a full cart of drinks with EBT isn't someone 'in need' :. Those buying everyday food and grocery items, yeah, fine, no problem.

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Pink_Slyvie t1_j9xmcnw wrote

How do you know? Stock up on drinks when they are cheap, get caffeine so they can work the 3 jobs that aren't covering the bills.

You have no idea what you are talking about, what they are experiencing. Dont ASSume anything.

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ROTLA t1_j9ucodj wrote

Why do you care so much? What it is to you?

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j9v7i8d wrote

Your Facebook Grandpa post is indistinguishable from what people were saying in the 1980s about food stamp recipients. Impressive.

 
> 90% of the transactions I see are straight up abuse.

 
Pennsylvania has been recognized in the past by the federal government for running a tight ship with regards to SNAP fraud, you're just seeing what you want to see, and you made it quite clear what you think is abuse:
 
> it seems like everyone and their brother has an EBT card with high balances, most of which can't speak a lick of English

 
You think that abuse is when people who aren't like you receive benefits.

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PrittedPunes t1_j9wtyge wrote

If you worked one of my shifts, I think you would quickly change your opinion.

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Bazurkmazurk t1_j9ustqo wrote

Love that you added that they can’t speak a lick of English. Our national language is English /s

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vintageideals t1_j9v2d7p wrote

Yep this is just an anonymous racist saying something that probably never even happened or happened like one time and they’re way over exaggerating and assuming some or most SNAP recipients are some type of person they deem undeserving. Just bigotry, racism, classicism, and they do it anonymously because they know it’s all it is. #keyboardracist

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sg92i t1_j9vui5p wrote

> and they do it anonymously

They just as commonly don't do it anonymously. This is a common trope from low class racists who have worked as cashiers & are pissed off at the world for being "better" than them. Facebook is full of people who love to come out of the woodwork whenever EBT is mentioned to tell about some time they worked in a grocery store or gas station and saw people "abusing it." Because obviously only low class whites deserve EBT or something like that.

Someone should turn it around and call them colonizers for speaking English in Pennsylvania instead of German (on a county by county level German was more common than English until WW1 throughout the state & some of those families were here before William Penn was).

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Pink_Slyvie t1_j9vayum wrote

Oh there is a simple solution.

Give everyone a snap card for the amount needed to feed everyone in the family. Then tax the rich to cover it.

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byndrsn OP t1_j9v16v5 wrote

>I know I will get downvoted to hell

good thing you came with your alt user account to spew your bigotry then

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Zenith2017 t1_ja87hgm wrote

The people using SNAP/EBT are not the people you should be upset with

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ArcherChase t1_ja8kgx0 wrote

How much perfectly good, edible food does your establishment throw out every day? How much good food is kept from hungry people in this nation that's supposedly the greatest ever? Maybe we don't need as many people on assistance if we don't have fake shortages of food and stop paying people so little since most people on SNAP are working at least one job.

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