Or there won't even be an updated article on some of the places. But yeah, sadly you're probably right.

And the businesses mentioned/showcased will lose out the most.

I'm curious if anyone will be held accountable for the false hype or will it just be another media shoulder shrug?

Spot on.

even the fucking correction says 'maybe didn't contain fentanyl'

Reporter: Tell us how you found out about these fentanyl gummies.

Cops: Well we walked in for our morning coffee and my partner all of a sudden fainted and started seizing. I knew right away there was fentanyl in the store.

Or something.

As a recovering addict and multiple OD survivor, those videos piss me off so much.

It's been well known for years that the field tests that police use to detect illegal drugs are error prone, a lot of innocent people have been arrested and charged because of false positives from these tests.

Washington Post - Why are police departments still using drug field tests? > In 2016, a report by Pro Publica and the New York Times found widespread false positives and user errors by cops when administering the most popular tests. Precise error rates are hard to calculate, because some test results can be affected by variables such as weather conditions, user error and lighting conditions. Some studies have shown error rates ranging from 1 in 5 false positives to 1 in 3. But even those disturbing figures can get worse if you create an incentive for a police officer to want a positive result. In 2009, the Marijuana Policy Project used the KN Reagent field test on 42 substances that weren’t marijuana. They were able to get false positives on 70 percent of them. > >The ProPublica report also found that the most commonly used tests didn’t include warnings about the high false-positive rate, despite a 2000 guideline from the Justice Department to do so. Surprisingly, the report found that more than half of those wrongly charged after a false positive actually pleaded guilty, an indication of how the threat of serious jail time can persuade innocent people to falsely confess.

This has been known for literally decades now.

So cops lied. Who would have foreseen this.

Show me on this doll where the fetanyl has touched you.

The call is coming from inside the house.

That's why I could never work at a hospital because I'd be so tempted to say "you wouldn't even be able to talk if you overdosed."

Those videos of police supposedly coming into contact with fentanyl and passing out don't help matters either.

To be fair, many people legitimately feel like they are overdosing after eating edibles.

When you have shitty tests being performed by bias observers, you can't be surprised when drugs are detected everywhere

Oh God..... I remember going to Nee York city in high school in '03.

My gram warned me about Pourto Rican drug dealers. She said that they would hide under cars and pop out and blow drugs in your face to addict you......

I have no idea where she got the idea from. I've never heard it before or since.

> When will people learn that they aren't going to lace a cheaper drug with a more expensive one.

Fentanyl is cheap, and it's been pretty well documented that it sometimes turns up in other drugs like cocaine and meth. Either intentionally to create a "speedball" type product, or unintentionally because of cross-contamination in the packaging.

That said I certainly agree that the concerns over marijuana are overblown, and there's especially no reason to think that a gray-market item like Delta-8 THC edibles would be either intentionally or unintentionally laced with fentanyl.

I give it until this October honestly. And the original article saying the cops found fentanyl in them will be the main source.

There was a ton of propaganda about “rainbow fentanyl” that could be easily mistaken for sweet tarts going around during Halloween last year.

So even if we get legal recreational use, we're still not going to get edibles, I guess.

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PA's war on pot continues

You know what bugs me about the general air of unease about delta 8 products? Anybody who's been smoking longer than a decade has smoked shit a stranger gave them in a sandwich bag or the torn off corner of a grocery bag. We were all willing to trust that guy your friend knows but we're supposed to freak out about what might be in gas station products? Gas station is a step up from buying from the guy behind the gas station!

The standard unit for quantitative and qualitative analysis in the US for Drugs of Abuse Panels is ng/ml. It's the case for nearly everything including things like Gabapentin where positives can be in the millions. Still measured and reported as ng/ml.

Edit. Changing DAU to say just drugs of abuse. Because gummies are obviously not urine.

Exactly. We wouldnt even be having this conversation if it was regulated much like it is with the MMJ program.

I have had terrible, terrible experiences with publicly available delta 8 and delta 9 with side effects that persisted long after they should have. Would not recommend.

Sensitive equipment has to be used properly, or else you get false positives.

I want you to think about a dollar bill for a second. Just your average dollar bill.

Chances are, it has some cocaine on it.

That dollar bill has 20,000x the amount of cocaine on it than what the police are claiming they tested on the gummies. 20,000x!

Forensic science, especially in the hands of the cops, is fake more often then not. Real analytical chemists never make the kind of statements those in law enforcement do. We also understand our equipment and detection limits.

I'd argue you have it exactly backwards, these cops are so high on their own supply of fear that they can't help but see fentanyl everywhere. Bordering on mass psychosis triggered by the exaggerated crisis of their own invention.

I'm sorry about your friend. I don't think anyone is poking fun at the fact that fentanyl does exist and kills people all the time. And I agree that these sort of gummies should be regulated and tested.

To be fair the article isn't exactly clear. They say the cops found it on their machines that test at such an insanely small level but the lab did not find any. The author even says he doesn't know the labs detection threshold. But if a lab who deals with this stuff on a microscopic level doesn't find anything and the cops are saying "it's setting off OUR testing equipment" then the issue is probably with the cops and their equipment.

Are we 100 percent sure there isn't even .0000000000000000000000001 percent fentanyl in the gummies? No. I don't know that you could ever be 100 percent certain on that. But it is very clear now that the gummies the cops took weren't responsible for the deaths of the people that caused the cops to investigate anyways.

You're absolutely right about fentanyl not being a joke. And I completely agree with you about a regulated, legal cannabis market. But about the testing equipment, I assume the equipment they brought to the store was not as accurate as the lab test they performed. And the lab test turned up no illegal drugs, not just a smaller amount. But that is how I interpreted the article.

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No, because no fentanyl was detected.