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DeliciousBeanWater t1_jak7bry wrote

Shes apparently a wonderfull person (my mom wotks for the legislature)

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eviljelloman t1_jaie9qt wrote

> institution with a long racist history finally does something slightly less racist than they have for the entire recorded history of their existence

> news: reports on that historic moment

Reddit Dipshit: IdEnTiTy PoLiTicS

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GraffitiTavern t1_jaimj60 wrote

Pennsylvania has never has a female senator, governor, or speaker(until now), I disagree with some politics where representation alone is the only goal(she will be a much better speaker than Cutler and will deliver for Pennsylvanians which is the most important thing) but having a more representative state government is an unequivocal good. Why wasn't it called "identity politics" when Black people and women were excluded from the commonwealth for the past 250 years?

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WingedChimera t1_jajxrqi wrote

If it were true equality the amount of people of color in politics would be representative of the amount of people of color in the country. You act like a bone got thrown so now racism is over.

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Drewcifer81 t1_jaihy5b wrote

Perhaps learn what identity politics actually means?

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ROTLA t1_jaidmk7 wrote

Sure, when America stops with the racism.

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Drewcifer81 t1_jaijxoh wrote

Why are you making this an issue about race? We had an African-American speaker of the PA house in the 80s.

Perhaps it's more pertinent that we finally have a woman in the position?

Either way, this is not "identity politics" as that would be that she was elevated solely because of her identity... not because, say, she was a well-liked minority speaker for 3 years prior?

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sensistarfish t1_jaj6u3i wrote

You: The majority of people have no problem with black people in positions of leadership!

Also You: why are we talking about her being black and in leadership??!!

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OneHumanPeOple t1_jaj1wjn wrote

Representation matters. This is a historic moment for Pennsylvanians and it’s particularly joyous for women and for Black citizens.

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defusted t1_jaj191n wrote

Lol right, because the only reason she got elected is because she's a black woman. She's not a republican relying on her parents.

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[deleted] t1_jajfbus wrote

I didn’t say that’s why she got elected. I said she was picked because she’s the best qualified, and that’s all that should matter.

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Finrodsrod t1_jajlcp7 wrote

>I said she was picked because she’s the best qualified, and that’s all that should matter.

You literally said the opposite in your OP.

>but can we stop with the identity politics?

Do you not understand what you even wrote?

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Finrodsrod t1_jajr7qv wrote

Identity politics is particular groups of people adhering to a set political party.

For example Evangelical Christians adopting Republican policy as part of their identity.

Your OP essentially stated that Democrats picked her because black people are stereotyped as having Democrat identity politics.

You literally have no clue what you're even saying.

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defusted t1_jajhuyk wrote

So you're just going to ignore your identity politics comment then? Because that's what that means.

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WingedChimera t1_jajxlqd wrote

We can stop with them when 90% of who we see in politics aren’t white old men.

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_jakcmrg wrote

It’s nonsensical that in the entire history of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that they didn’t have a single qualified female speaker of color until today.

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajdt9y wrote

Why does skin color ever matter? Stop making everything about race.

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Mijbr090490 t1_jajn7f5 wrote

It's kind of important in this context. Minorities are empowered by seeing people who look like them in positions of power. Look at a picture of the US presidents. Old white guy, old white guy, old white guy, younger black guy, old white (well, orange) guy, old white guy. Sorry your ego is so fragile.

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajnlvl wrote

Your negative attitude shows your level of maturity.

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Mijbr090490 t1_jajo597 wrote

That means a lot coming from the guy who is upset over skin color.

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajocpv wrote

Not upset. Just can't understand why racists focus on it so much. It doesn't define people

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Mijbr090490 t1_jajp3y0 wrote

Why is it racist to celebrate the first black women speaker of the house in Pa? You do realize that the Civil Rights act was passed less than 60 years ago and white supremacists groups still exist? I'd say its worth celebrating.

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajrs8s wrote

Why boil everything about her, all her accomplishments and efforts, down to her sex and skin color for an articles title. Why is that always the goto and why am I the bad person for asking it?

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Mijbr090490 t1_jajtk5r wrote

You answer my question first. How is it racist to celebrate her being the first black woman as speaker of the house? Do you think she doesn't want to be celebrated for that? Do you think that any black pioneers don't want to be recognized in that way?

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajvdyy wrote

I want to know why her skin color matters for the position, for what she was voted to do? why should it even be mentioned, it means nothing to the job or role. It only matters to people that pay attention to those details, the people that make sure thats mentioned, the people that rage over someone asking why it matters.Her sex shouldnt matter either, will she do her job better or worse because she is female? why mention it at all?

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Mijbr090490 t1_jajw4t1 wrote

You never answered my question yet you expect me to answer yours. Explain why it is racist to celebrate a black woman being the first PA speaker of the house.

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cashonlyplz t1_jalysm2 wrote

It's living history. Jackie Robinson, etc. What is wrong with your brain? The culture war vaporize it?

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Zenith2017 t1_jamypc7 wrote

It absolutely matters because representation matters

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Unfamiliar_Word t1_jaji4ua wrote

Why shouldn't it matter? It might not be the most momentous of occasions, but it's not insignificant given that there have been 142 Speakers prior to Johanna McClinton, but no women and only on other Black Pennsylvanian (K. Leroy Irvis).

If nothing also, given how prominent race has been throughout American history, especially in its politics, it seems naïve to think to feign its irrelevance. It's not making, "everything," about race to note the significance of somebody from a people who have been abused and oppressed throughout American history attaining a position of significant authority.

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WikiSummarizerBot t1_jaji6qa wrote

K. Leroy Irvis

>Kirkland Leroy Irvis (December 27, 1919 – March 16, 2006) was a teacher, activist and politician based in Pennsylvania; he was the first African American to serve as a speaker of the house in any state legislature in the United States since Reconstruction. (John Roy Lynch (1847–1939) of Mississippi had been the first African American to hold that position. ) Irvis, a Democrat, represented Pittsburgh in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives from 1958–1988.

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Finrodsrod t1_jajljc4 wrote

It's a first. Yes. It matters that a barrier has been broken. Go sit down and pout.

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajmixd wrote

What barriers? What percentage of people in office in that area are female ? How many women choose to be in that profession. Why make it seem something it isn't.

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Finrodsrod t1_jajn4oh wrote

She's literally the first woman to be PA speaker of the house...

It's significant. Go sit down and shut up.

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Sensitive_Job_7164 t1_jajne0g wrote

Keep trying to be insulting but the title could have listed accomplishments or goals. Not skin color and sex.

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Sonnescheint t1_jakiep4 wrote

"Accomplishments or goals" Well she's speaker of the state house for one thing

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Zenith2017 t1_jamytyh wrote

The article lists those accomplishments and goals aplenty

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discogeek t1_jajnpa7 wrote

She's the first female speaker, not the first African American.

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delusions- t1_jalxasz wrote

She's not African any more than you're a European American

She's black

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jodwilso t1_jals2fb wrote

The uniparty wants us working stiffs on its Demacrat wing and Republican wing to be divided over things like race, so the ruling class who they represent can keep stealing all the money.

They’ll fan the flames of anything that keeps the city and rural woking stiffs divided, and too distracted to look at them.

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