ny_insomniac t1_jd9hxe0 wrote on March 22, 2023 at 8:08 PM

I went to Penn State. For what, exactly? More construction and luxury facilities no one asked for (the gyms on campus aren't free for students, by the way) and more equipment for the football team?

CVideoDesigns t1_jd9mmqo wrote on March 22, 2023 at 8:38 PM

Same here, and I totally agree. There has been non-stop construction on that campus forever! I even made a short student film about it for one of my film classes called “Construction State” OVER 20 YEARS AGO! And yet, look no further than East Halls for a shining example of the squalor students are still living in while paying more than double what I did each semester. The largest reason by far that I keep chucking their fundraising letters in the garbage is because of the irresponsible spending I’ve seen over the past two decades.

ny_insomniac t1_jd9wjxv wrote on March 22, 2023 at 9:43 PM

Oh my god! That's too clever. Were you also in the film program? I bet you can understand my frustration at the new communications building that opened up after our departure. No more long annoying trips to Innovation Park for classes or to pick up equipment.

CVideoDesigns t1_jd9z38s wrote on March 22, 2023 at 10:00 PM

Yeah, film program, but I finished up just before everything got shipped to IP, so most of my classes were still in Carnegie. That would be crazy annoying; I didn't even realize they moved it back again. I remember my senior year they were talking about the change to IP and I was like "way to kill a top film program by completely divorcing it from campus." I sure never heard of any of my engineering/english/kinesiology friends needing to use the lab at 2am because that's the only time the Avid bays were available to book, but film kids? Sure, find a way to get 2 miles outside of campus after the busses stop running and you have no car. At least my class could hand carry all the gear rentals from Carnegie back to our apartments if we couldn't rustle up someone with a car.

IWantAStorm t1_jdd9tsu wrote on March 23, 2023 at 3:55 PM

Temple was like this the whole time I was there. Ripping down and rebuilding.

And whoever designed some of those buildings were out of their mind. When I think back, a ton of the buildings were fire traps.

EeveeBixy t1_jdb3aih wrote on March 23, 2023 at 2:49 AM

Don't forgot replacing full time tenure track professor positions with part-time adjunct positions that pay worse, offer no benefits, and are on a semester by semester contract basis. Meaning you're paying more for larger classes taught by less experienced teachers.

Also take 30% overhead from any research grant, and pay Postdocs and grad students (who are also teaching some classes), the NIH minimum (which is required to get NIH funding). Plus, if the Postdoc or grad student does get a grant that will increase their salary, take the money, and keep them on the minimum salary (This is at least the bullshit that Temple pulls).

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bell_telephone t1_jddcopu wrote on March 23, 2023 at 4:13 PM

> the gyms on campus aren't free for students, by the way

I'm sorry, what?

I agree with almost everything in this thread, but that statement is blatantly false. Unless you consider the athletic training complex, but there are like 3 completely open gyms on campus.

ny_insomniac t1_jdebkue wrote on March 23, 2023 at 7:53 PM

Maybe that's what I was thinking of, if you mean the complex right off Atherton.